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Have I messed up? Planted new rose

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redpickle · 06/04/2023 09:55

I've planted a new David Austin bare root rose (Gertrude Jeckyll) on Mother's Day. I've put in in a south facing bed in front of the house, which is a bed I've been enriching ready for planting. I've been using my Grandads old gardening notebook from the 1950s as my guide as he had an amazing garden. Thing is I've been digging in organic matter including bonemeal as per the instructions. I also didn't have any Mycorrhizal Fungi when planting so the rose went straight into the soil with some rose feed granules. I've now bought another DA rose for elsewhere and see that instructions are to use the fungi. Research also shows that advice is now NOT to use bonemeal when planting roses as the can inhibit growth of important root fungi.
Will it be ok? Is there anything I can do now for Gertrude?

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Greentree1 · 06/04/2023 10:01

I don't suppose it can be that bad, if that's the way it was always done in the past (my Dad had lovely roses probably following the same guidelines). Can you water in the the fungi? Or make some holes small with a bar and get it to root level near the root ball?

MereDintofPandiculation · 06/04/2023 10:16

She’ll be OK. We grew roses fine back in the old days when double digging was the norm and mycorrhizal fungi was something really weird that orchids did.

If you’d scattered bonemeal in the hole, since you planted only yesterday, I might have considered lifting her and scraping out, but dug in, that’s not going to be effective. So don’t give it another thought.

redpickle · 06/04/2023 13:29

I will plant my new rose tomorrow (DA The Pilgrim, so also a climber) using the Fungi. It will be interesting to compare how they do. Thank you!

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orangeflags · 06/04/2023 13:52

It will be fine.

Mutabiliss · 06/04/2023 18:44

I'm sure it'll be fine. I dug up a rose and replanted it elsewhere last year without extra organic matter, bonemeal or fungi (it was a bit of a spur of the moment thing while my son was napping). It's growing away beautifully and very happy!

Sundaefraise · 06/04/2023 18:47

Honestly, it will be fine. I’ve planted loads of DA over the years, some with fungi some without. I think the general soil quality and good position will mean that it does well. You’ve also chosen a good variety.

Anjo2011 · 06/04/2023 21:20

Roses are very hardy. It will be fine , enjoy it. How lovely to have your Grandads gardening notes, what a lovely keepsake.

redpickle · 07/04/2023 17:18

They're so special. He used to be a groundsman and gardener in a couple of stately homes so they're a real treasure trove. All hand written, which is lovely but can be a bit frustrating when it says "the key to getting the best results here is to fbfjfjfxjjdnfksjx" ???? Grin
Thanks for all the reassurance. Gertrude has a few shoots coming so I'm hopeful she's fine.

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OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea · 07/04/2023 17:39

I didn't have anything and just shoved my DA roses in the ground with some well rotted manure and they were very happy, I'm sure yours will survive! Your grandads gardening notes sound like my mum's recipe book, and absolute treasure.

ppeatfruit · 08/04/2023 10:07

When we moved to our house which has a garden with chalky,sandyish soil. The old owners had really enriched the front area and had planted a rose which wasn't very happy. I spoke to some "natural" nursery owners and they laughed at my hoping to enrich my new rose. But I managed with mixed homemade compost/woodash and the existing soil and now there are very happy roses in a type of soil they are not supposed to like! Though I wouldn't try rhodies!

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