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Like a buddleia but not.

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HamFrancisco · 28/01/2023 23:02

I want to plant a tall shrub, ideally multi stem, with an open, airy canopy. A buddleia would be perfect, except I don’t want it seeding in walls etc. What else is similar? I think a lifted canopy evergreen like a photinia is too heavy and dense, it’s for the middle of the garden so it would be nice to see through it.

4m height and 2m width max.

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buckleten · 29/01/2023 11:23

Kolkwitzia grows in a similar way to buddleia, and has beautiful pink flowers. It's easy to prune, and not invasive.

HamFrancisco · 29/01/2023 11:24

Thanks again everyone for the suggestions. Sadly a fig wouldn't grow here, we are in an exposed spot with strong, cold winds which I think would be too much for the big leaves. Hamamelis and Cornus also require shelter, according to the RHS, which is a bugger as they look lovely (thanks, @MereDintofPandiculation ).

I like the look of that Himalayan honeysuckle, it looks like the type of plant you can chop bits off if it's too big. It says 'sheltered' on the RHS site but Gardners World seem a bit more relaxed about it.

I haven't ignored the suggestions of laurel and viburnum, by the way, I'm doing some research.

While I'm here, can anyone tell me what the plant is at the front of the bed in my photo, next to the ponytail grass, about knee high tall?

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CharlotteStreetW1 · 29/01/2023 11:28

We have two dogwood - one with red wood and one with orange. They both have lovely foliage and flowers in the summer and a dogwood would look spectacular in the winter.

Blueberrycreampie · 29/01/2023 11:29

Two more I've thought of are Magnolia Stellata which is relatively small and absolutely beautiful with lovely scent, or Japanese Quince - I have a gorgeous pinky red one.

Blueberrycreampie · 29/01/2023 11:35

If it's the one i'm thinking of its an Oleander?

senua · 29/01/2023 11:46

While I'm here, can anyone tell me what the plant is at the front of the bed in my photo, next to the ponytail grass, about knee high tall?
Here's an article about the garden, with some plant details.

MereDintofPandiculation · 29/01/2023 13:59

Sadly a fig wouldn't grow here, we are in an exposed spot with strong, cold winds which I think would be too much for the big leaves. Hamamelis and Cornus also require shelter, according to the RHS, which is a bugger as they look lovely I have all of them in my Yorkshire garden 400ft above sealevel. But we’re a frost pocket rather than particularly windy.

If you like the look of Cornus kousa, you could try some of the Viburnums, eg opulus, plicatum

MereDintofPandiculation · 29/01/2023 14:02

maranella · 29/01/2023 08:04

Viburnam grows sparsely. It's deciduous, so it looks green and vibrant in growing season, but in the winter it's really sparse and that's when it flowers and the flowers smell amazing. Lilac is the same, although that flowers in spring.

You’re thinking of Viburnum bodnantense I think? Some of the other Viburnums flower later in the year

MereDintofPandiculation · 29/01/2023 14:08

While I'm here, can anyone tell me what the plant is at the front of the bed in my photo, next to the ponytail grass, about knee high tall? I think it’s the Dahlia whose red flowers you can see a bit higher up.

It’s not an oleander, which has long narrow leaves not serrated at the edges. And it’s not the red potentilla that you can see in the article linked above.

IcakethereforeIam · 29/01/2023 16:29

I think the berries of the Himalayan honeysuckle are edible, supposed to taste like caramel.

Saz12 · 07/02/2023 23:16

If it’s very windy, avoiding anything brittle will help. How about Rowan (sorbus) pink pagoda? Or Sorbus Coxi? Has glaucous delicate foliage, white flowers, then pink berries that stay on tree for ages as birds not so keen on the colour.

MereDintofPandiculation · 08/02/2023 09:34

IcakethereforeIam · 29/01/2023 16:29

I think the berries of the Himalayan honeysuckle are edible, supposed to taste like caramel.

Just remember Himalayan honeysuckle isn’t a honeysuckle. Most (admittedly not all) honeysuckles have poisonous berries.

IcakethereforeIam · 08/02/2023 16:13

For the avoidance of doubt (or to confuse things further)

Like a buddleia but not.
Like a buddleia but not.
IcakethereforeIam · 08/02/2023 16:14

Yes, I know I spelled Himalayan wrong Blush

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 08/02/2023 19:49

Love the annotation 😍😂

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 08/02/2023 19:49

I am now intrigued to try eating my Himalayan honeysuckle berries later this year 😋

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 09/02/2023 22:26

I have dogwood red sticks at the moment but tonnes of leaves in summer. I need something quick growing but non invasive to fill space where the fence is lower. Buddleia sounds ideal. Is lilac invasive? The roots ?

HamFrancisco · 10/02/2023 06:21

Just spotted there have been some more replies, thanks! Duly noted about the honeysuckle berries. Grin

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BewareTheBeardedDragon · 10/02/2023 06:53

@70isaLimitNotaTarget lilac does sucker, and if you don't keep on top of removing the suckers it will spread, but personally I don't think it's arduous and I think it's easily enough controlled that it doesn't become invasive - but it does have potential to be so if left alone.

MavisFlump · 10/02/2023 07:01

Himalayan honeysuckle seeds itself everywhere in my garden. It’s an attractive shrub though.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 11/02/2023 08:15

That's funny - mine arrived as a randomly dropped seed (presumably delivered via a bird from another plant in the locality), but I've never found a seedling from having it growing and fruiting hugely in my own garden. Odd.

Of course now I've said that, fate will ensure I am plagued by self seeding this year 😂

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