Which DA rose for an arch?

[Allthenumbers]

Help please!

I’ve just put up an arch. It leads to my veg part of the garden. It’s just over 2m high and 1m wide, so not huge. I think a “standard arch” by DA website categories!

Anyway I want a climber to grow up it and would love a rose.

I was thinking Mortimer sackler or the lady of the lake? I think my heart says lady of the lake but my head says Mortimer..(Mortimer seems more manageable and thornless would be great as we’ll go through the arch a lot)

Any advice? I’ve no experience of growing roses!!

I’d love a fragrant rose that is good for bees. Worried a rose will swamp the arch though (and arch would become hard to walk through!) and cast too much shade (is near a lavender hedge)

What do you think? Mortimer? Lady of the lake? Something else?!

Thank you!

This is a dangerous thread for me, I've already preordered 6 boscobell shrubs and two generous Gardner climbers. I keep going back to the website!

@lunar1 ha ha!

I think I’m edging towards Claire Austin now.

I do really like the look of the lady of the lake but feel nervous that it is a rambling rose.

I would love the generous gardener actually but according to DA website it’s suitable for a large arch (I think
Mine is more a standard arch)

I’m going to listen to a PP and go with my gut and get the lady of the lake. Will try and hold off for a bare root though in the autumn.

Might just get one and see how that goes. Maybe plant a complementary rose on the other side…

You DO need loads of roses OP! Gardening is such a helpless addiction 🤣

Lady of the Lake will look wonderful.

If you get any shrubs, my favourites are The Ancient Mariner and a newly acquired Roald Dahl.

I don't know whereabouts you are but there's a great nursery near Pickering that specialises in roses. I bought a couple of very old french roses from them a couple of years ago. The scent is out of this world!

Thanks! But nowhere near Pickering sadly.

I feel really excited about the lady of the Lake - I’m assuming that it needs to be trained and pruned in the same way as a climber even though it’s a rambler. Seems to be a climber in all but name anyway!

I’m going to hold off till a better planting time which is hard!

We are lucky enough to live half an hour away from DA and went on Sunday. I have 2 Generous Gardeners going over an arch, beautiful smell. I also have a Mortimer sackler going over a shed which has grown loads this year. GG smells stronger than MS.

Also, there's a reason Gertrude Jekyll is one of the most popular roses, the smell is divine,

Thanks @sparklystarshinebright your arch looks great but I think a lot bigger than mine. I think I’d have gone GG if bigger arch cos it’s so popular and has everything I want but I’m sure its too big got my arch

I wish I lived close to DA! I’d love to actually visit and see the roses.

@Allthenumbers, they will only grow as big as you let them! I will cut mine back if it get too big!

Ah ok, I did wonder about that. But then I thought they tried to grow up before out? So that if you restrict height they might flower less?

I think though that I may get a GG go cover a fence in my garden so that might be my answer!

@NotMaryWhitehouse

Can I put in a recommendation for The Generous Gardener? It's a repeat flower and the smell is wonderful.

A friend bought Paul's Himalayan Musk from DA and that too looks to be a fantastic climber, although smaller flowers more in the rambling style.

I shall find a pick of my TGG for you......

I was going to say the Generous Gardener. I have it over an average arch. It's beautiful and easy to look after.

@DidgeDoolittle that’s interesting! Do you know your arch dimensions? I’m put off GG but only cos the DA website says it’s only suitable for a large arch.

[quote Allthenumbers]@DidgeDoolittle that’s interesting! Do you know your arch dimensions? I’m put off GG but only cos the DA website says it’s only suitable for a large arch.[/quote]
I would say it's about a metre and a bit wide. About 6 foot high. Ish

@DidgeDoolittle that sounds similar to mine. Oh god, what to get!! Do you have a photo? Please!!

[quote Allthenumbers]@DidgeDoolittle that’s interesting! Do you know your arch dimensions? I’m put off GG but only cos the DA website says it’s only suitable for a large arch.[/quote]
I put in a 3rd GG last year against horrid neighbouring fence, if you think your arch is too small?

@NotMaryWhitehouse that’s what I’m thinking - I do have a fence that could be covered by the gg or 2!

Whatever you do, don’t get Paul’s Himalayan Musk. It’s gorgeous and smells good, but it’s a complete thug.

@AvengingGerbil

Whatever you do, don’t get Paul’s Himalayan Musk. It’s gorgeous and smells good, but it’s a complete thug.

Is it?! Oh god I'd better warn my friend! 😂

[quote Crappestbag]@NotMaryWhitehouse that’s what I’m thinking - I do have a fence that could be covered by the gg or 2![/quote]
Do it!! What is a fence, but an outdoor wall waiting to have 'pictures' on it!

I've just bought a new arch and two Bathsheba climbers thanks to this thread!

They arrived with so many buds and a couple open, the roses are so delicate looking and have a lovely unusual smell. I need shares in DA!

This is my new climber!

Congratulations @lunar1

I was going to wait till bare root availability but I think I can’t now I’ve seen yours!!

I don’t suppose anyone has a DA discount code? I had one hiatus expired yesterday 🤦‍♀️

@Allthenumbers the arch was a birthday gift, I was on the website planning for bare root as well but I caved. The arch is going up tomorrow.

Did you decide what you want in the end? I still have an order coming in October 😬

I know! I wish I’d caved with 10% off in July 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

I think Lady of the Lake - I want fragrant, bee friendly and a pinky colour and it’s the one suitable for a standard arch. It’s that or generous gardener but I don’t want to defy the DA website which says it’s suitable for a large arch. I’m probably way over thinking it but I’m new to gardening (and roses!) so tend to try do it all by the book!

What a lovely birthday gift for you 😊