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Would you like to help me choose some plants for this bed?

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steppemum · 10/04/2021 20:01

So, we have a long narrow garden, it runs East/West, the bed I am looking at runs all along the fence down one side, the north side. It gets morning and evening light. Garden tends to be dry, soil not bad, not massively acid or alkaline.
It has had shrubs and not much else in it since we moved in 10 years ago. Now the whole fence is being redone, and so we have had to work our way all down the fence, cutting back and removing stuff to allow access.
I have dug over the bed and removed loads of ivy, bind weed and brambles at ground level. We have removed a couple of shrubs which have had it, and massively chopped back some others. The neighbours have also massively chopped back some huge shrubs which over shadowed part of it.

So, as you go down that side of the garden, it is about 10m (30 feet) of bed (call it bed 1) Bed is about 1.5 m wide. Then a gap, then a huge tree. (proper full size taller than the house, bronze sycamore).Bed 1 doesn't get shade form this tree.
Then another gap, then my 'woodland bed' which is about 5 m (15 feet) but is only a couple of feet wide, and is in the shade of the big tree, and has a couple of rotten tree stumps in it.

Things that are still in bed 1: two large hypericums (St Johns Wort), some ice plants, a tree mallow (quite small still, planted last year), a lovely tree like shrub (large) which has fab spring flowers, and a low growing euonymous. There is also a lot of euphorbia which I hate and quietly remove as soon as it spreads. And some lovely tall red flowered thing which dies back in winter and reappears every spring.

I am looking for 2 things

  1. Plants to go in bed 1 between all these shrubs, the bed looks really empty now! But I don't think that there is room for another large shrub, just things to go between or under.
  2. some nice things to go in the woodland bed, it also now has lots of space. (this is where the bind weed and worst of the brambles were) I have some smaller plants in there, nothing big, bed is very narrow. I love the smaller woodland type plants, I have for example a little cyclamen which I have just refound from under the brambles..

I like gardening, but don't have much time. In our garden the things that do best are generally things which don't need attention, either come up every year, or shrubs/bushes. We are good at pruning and tidying once or twice a year, but rubbish at feed and water. I like to make plants work, so 2 seasons of interest, but I am happy for one of those to be interesting twiggy winter shape. Or, something which flowers away all summer (which is why I like the tree mallow and the hypericums)

Don't care about colour (look, we already have pink, red and yellow, this is not going to be a colour themed bed)

What are your top recommendations? Not too unusual/hard to find/expensive. General good old traditional is fine, there is a reason they became popular!

Thank you!

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Firststariseetonight · 10/04/2021 20:16

Hellabore would be perfect in the woodland bed, flowers from December to April, evergreen, love shade and don't need any attention.

steppemum · 10/04/2021 20:24

yes I love hellebores. I forgot about them, my mum has loads, they seem to spread all over her garden, so she might let me have a couple!

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steppemum · 10/04/2021 20:25

I don;t mind just interesting leaves too in the woodland bed.

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Beebumble2 · 10/04/2021 21:17

Amelia are pretty shrubs that have lovely pink flowers in mid to late summer. Weigelia are similar shrubs, but flower earlier in late spring. Both varieties have smaller versions.
Hebes have smaller versions, easy to look after and flower through the summer.
In the woodland area, crainsbill geraniums come in a wide variety, easily looked after, Lilly if the valley, anemones, Lamium and ferns might work well.

steppemum · 11/04/2021 00:26

some lovely ideas there.
I just googled amelia and I get lots of plants called amelia eg a rose called amelia. Can you tell me what it is?

love the idea of some lily of the valley too. Lamiums look pretty. I have one fern which does very well there, another one would be good.

One of the old shrubs that we took out was a hebe.There were about 6 in our garden when we first moved in, and there is now only one left. May be time to replace!

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Mrsmorton · 11/04/2021 00:32

Heucheras are great space fillers and can add some colour with their leaves.

steppemum · 11/04/2021 00:37

I love a heuchera. But so do the slugs and snails Sad

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Beebumble2 · 11/04/2021 07:52

Sorry auto correct! The plant is Abelia , I have one and prune it to shape after flowering.

steppemum · 11/04/2021 10:02

Oh the abelia looks really pretty!

on the topic of heucheras, I love hostas too, but have given up as holey leaves just aren't pretty.
Hmm I have just googled heucheras and I am wondering if those leaves are slug magnets. They look more textured which slugs don't like.
Anyone any experience of them in a sluggy garden?

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candycane222 · 11/04/2021 10:12

I have a very sluggy garden, so anything I have here is slugproof. Plants that I have that have lasted in the 'not full sun' half include astrantia (masterwort); crocosmia, lots of different cranesbills, ferns, London Pride, and Japanese anemone. Some cranesbills, and all japanese anemone, are somewhat thug like in my very moist clay soil and I do end up digging extra ones out (not easy)!! But they are certainly reliable. Lamium is a pretty ground cover that seems to last through winter, too.

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 11/04/2021 11:33

Astrantia are supposed to be actively dislikes by slugs. They're perennials that die back over winter and re-emerge in spring.

Beebumble2 · 11/04/2021 11:37

Astrantia are wonderful plants, lovely for cutting as they have a long flowering season. Also great for dividing and sharing. Last year l planted a deep red one to compliment the delicate pink ones.

steppemum · 11/04/2021 14:34

Oh more lovely suggestions.
I have Japanese anemone, it is in the very hot dry and sunny side of the garden, and squished against something else. So about 5 years ago I tried to move it over to the more shady side. It all died, and the bits I missed on the sunny side are thriving again Hmm

I will try again though, as i love it, and it would work really well in bed 1.

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steppemum · 11/04/2021 14:49

walked down there this morning, and had a look at what is in the woodland bed.
there is a beautiful variagated leafed plant which I think is Arum italicum ‘Marmoratum’ (well, looks like that when I googled.)
also some elephants ears - don't know what the real name is!

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BigWolfLittleWolf · 11/04/2021 15:17

I have loads of heuchera and slugs don’t damage them at all.
Ajuga is also reliably slug safe for me.
I have tried and failed to grow Hosta, the slugs destroy them, they are currently damaging my Hyacinths 🤬

steppemum · 11/04/2021 17:03

Oh that's good news BigWolf. I love th ecolours of the heuchera.

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steppemum · 11/04/2021 17:15

So, my Mum is coming over tomorrow, and will be suitably encouraging about all the hard work we have done (don't you love Mums)
Then we will have a good planty talk.
Hopefully she will have some cuttings etc of some of these you have mentioned that she can do for me, and then

we are going to book a time to go shopping for plants.
Has to wait a week or two until the fence is done.
Then we will come home and plant them and sit and drink coffee and chat.

That all sounds so wonderfully normal

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candycane222 · 12/04/2021 09:38

Oooh that sounds blissfully normal SmileSmileSmile

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