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Propagating a mystery rose

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UneAstuce · 30/03/2021 18:17

About 7 years ago I bought a rose from some kind of bargain basement deal, I have no idea what it is. I didn't imagine it would do as well as it has done and just plonked it in the border.

Anyway, turns out it has reliably produced the most amazing blooms throughout the summer, on long stems, ideal for cutting, year in year out. It's kind of light pink with darker pink around the edges. It's not a David Austin type old English rose - possibly a hybrid tea type? It does have a scent though.

I'm now moving house in about 3 weeks time! I don't want to leave my mystery rose! I don't want to dig it up and move it because I'm sure the roots go very deep now and I might kill it. I've discovered it is possible to propagate from cuttings - something I would have done before had I known. But the new shoots aren't long enough yet! Will they grow long enough within 3 weeks??? Has anyone propagated a rose before? Please let me hear your experiences!

Alternatively if I can identify it, I could buy another. I will upload a photo, although I need to go back through my photos from last summer.

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UneAstuce · 30/03/2021 18:21

Here's a photo - this is it before it has completely bloomed

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UneAstuce · 30/03/2021 18:24

Another photo in full bloom with some other roses which are Gentle Hermione if anyone's interested.

it's the one at the front (plus another less blooming one poking out the top).

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TheVanguardSix · 30/03/2021 18:25

How beautiful OP. The thing that will absolutely help you to succeed at propagation is rooting hormone powder! That’s the magic right there.

Here’s a good guide for you:

www.thespruce.com/can-you-grow-roses-from-cuttings-1403059

TheVanguardSix · 30/03/2021 18:27

Goodness! They really ARE heavenly!
You can take several clippings and pot them (because some will fail. It just happens). Hopefully you’ll find that guide I linked to helpful.

Bipbopbee · 30/03/2021 18:33

How beautiful OP!

UneAstuce · 30/03/2021 18:51

@TheVanguardSix thank you for the link - that is easily the best explanation I've seen!

Thanks both, yes isn't she a beaut!

Attached is pic of the same rose taken literally now. I dashed into garden to take a photo to show you how short the new shoots are at the moment. I hope hope hope they put on a load of growth in the next couple of weeks so I can get some good cuttings. It seems that cuttings from new growth are likely to be more successful....

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ByeByeTrain · 30/03/2021 20:17

Is it a Nostalgia? www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/products/nostalgia

UneAstuce · 30/03/2021 20:33

Wow I think it is!!!!

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didireallysaythat · 30/03/2021 20:33

OP I'd be tempted to take cuttings and dig it up as well. The worst that can happen is that it will die. The people buying your house may have different plans for the garden. I'm sure I've watched videos on how to lift and transport roses (cutting the roots back etc)

UneAstuce · 30/03/2021 22:47

Yes I bet the people moving here will get rid of a load of stuff in the garden. Shame because there's a daphne in full bloom and you can smell the scent from the other side of the garden at the moment, it's so strong. Definitely won't be able to move that - apparently they hate to be moved!

But yes I suppose I could dig up the rose (as well as take cuttings - if the shoots grow long enough to do so before we leave). I will google digging up a rose and what to do about the roots etc.

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UneAstuce · 30/03/2021 22:49

But @ByeByeTrain I am very grateful to you because I'm certain you have identified the rose! Nostalgia! So I can just buy another now, it seems.

I've always wondered what it was and now I know. Thank you so much - did you recognise it or something?

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UneAstuce · 30/03/2021 22:57

It's definitely Nostalgia

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Unreasonabubble · 30/03/2021 22:58

@UneAstuce If it is of any help, I had a rose given to me by my DS a few years ago and it was right next to a fence. The fence belonged to a neighbour who wanted to replace it. I dug up the rose, cut if right back and it stayed in it's new pot for months! I finally transplanted it to another part of the garden and it has positively thrived. What I am trying to say is DIG IT UP and take it with you!

MaryIsA · 31/03/2021 06:22

Roses are tough as old boots. So do both definitely. I transplanted 6 roses last year and took cuttings. Only one set of cuttings failed. Literally stuck them in the ground very very easy. The roses have all transplanted perfectly. Water in well after moving.

Take lots of cuttings of things you love.

A,SLO I checked my buyers plans for the garden and he was going to build an extension so he said take whatever I wanted, in the grounds it was going to go anyway. I dug up hardy geraniums. All my perennials. They’ve all transplanted well. .

billybagpuss · 31/03/2021 06:32

Dig it up and take it with you, honestly it will be fine. It’s the best time to transplant them now and roses are not cheap.

UneAstuce · 31/03/2021 08:11

Ok I'm going to dig it up. Hope it likes it in a pot. Do I just use normal compost and add some bonemeal or something?

I've already dug up and put into pots quite a lot of stuff - mainly bulbs and geraniums. I have a ton of snowdrops in the green now as well.

Thing is I'm moving to a small west facing courtyard garden, so most of this stuff will have to remain in pots. The garden where I am right now is too big to keep it how I'd like, and I've always wanted a small, gravel garden or courtyard, so I'm looking forward to this move. And taking lots of my "friends" with me.

I will probably start another thread at some point about designing a courtyard. The new garden is currently laid to grass but it is so small it will be easy to remove that.

Nostalgia might like living in a pot in a courtyard!

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MaryIsA · 31/03/2021 09:51

I spent 10 years with a courtyard garden. There are so many things that are happy in pots. An important thing for me was having height so I had a raised bed down one side where I had trees and climbers planted so they were in proper soil.

Also lots of climbers.

Had perennials in pots - it was a lovely garden - especially on a summer evening - also lots of cosmos, verbena bonaseris and bronze fennel and herbs.

BigWolfLittleWolf · 31/03/2021 18:10

I have transplanted loads of roses over the years, if they are fairly large they get a decent chunk of their roots chopped off as I ask DH to do the big ones for me and he is horribly careless.

I have only ever had one rose die on me.
It was the height of summer and I stupidly didn’t water it nearly enough.

Currently I have lots that were taken out of the ground late summer last year, given a large root prune and stuffed into pots.
They are all doing fine!

Dig up your rose, pot up and take it with you.
In my experience, even if you damage its roots quite severely as long as you take care to keep it watered it will probably recover and grow fine

mowglika · 31/03/2021 20:51

I was going to say it could also be ‘double delight’. I hope you take it with you OP

sarahc336 · 01/04/2021 07:25

What a lovely rose bush op 😍

billybagpuss · 01/04/2021 07:51

It will be fine in a pot for a bit, I kept two in pots for years, but ultimately roses do like to have their feet in the ground.

UneAstuce · 04/04/2021 17:37

A new home for the rose! Plastic pot so it's easier to move - I can find a nicer one once I'm at the new place. If it dies at least now I know what it is and can repurchase but 🤞 it will survive and bloom again this summer.

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Pinkbrush · 05/04/2021 18:02

Last year i asked a neighbour for some cuttings of her rose tree. I planted them in a pot with some rose feed and it survived. It currently has lots of leaves. I did nothing special. Hope it works out for yours... they’re gorgeous!

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