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City garden: please help me with plant varieties

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Solasum · 19/03/2021 23:08

Wise gardeners.

I have a small mostly patio garden with a couple of flower beds which are mainly herbs. I want to grow some climbers to cover a wall and ugly bits of the house.

Plants that seem to do well locally are honeysuckle, jasmine and Passion flowers.

Plants needed:

  1. to grow up and mostly cover a west facing wall with trellis (2 metres high). Ideally something scented, not spiky as behind a seating area, and that is not going to persistently grow more than 3 metres high as that would cause a problem with gutters and while I don’t mind pruning I don’t want to be pruning all the time. Spot previously occupied by ivy which went crazy and had to be destroyed. Was thinking maybe a honeysuckle?

  2. to grow up and surround metal window frames (they don’t open). There is nothing to attach trellis or anything to. South facing, but partly shaded by trees. Was wondering about Virginia creeper as it can sucker itself up?

  1. North facing wall, already has two climbers on it, one of which is a rose. Need one other that grows quite bushy. jasmine maybe?

Thoughts, including about suited varieties very welcome.

I prefer blues and white and pinks to yellows and oranges.

Many thanks!

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Beebumble2 · 20/03/2021 07:57

For your North facing wall I’d suggest a climbing Hydrangea. They don’t need much attention and are really beautiful.
I’d seriously avoid Virginia Creeper, they do sucker to the wall, but can cause damage to the brickwork. Also, they grow very quickly and do need a lot of pruning, I’m looking at a neighbours house wall, to keep it under control and away from his roof he gives it a trim every 2 weeks in the growing season.
For your West facing wall I’d consider a thornless rose.

LakieLady · 20/03/2021 11:00

Another vote for a thornless rose. Someone clever will undoubtedly be along soon to recommend varieties! (I would always go for the divinely scented Mme Alfred Carriere, which may well grow too big for your liking).

The great thing about a west-facing wall is that it will get warmth from sun into the early evening, so the fragrance will be especially lovely then.

If you like honeysuckle, Lonicera serotina (cream and deep pink flowers) is really easy, has a lovely scent and the added bonus of quite pink fruit (clusters about 1" in diameter) that birds absolutely adore.

Actually, you could have both.

I can't, off the top of my head, think of a climber that doesn't require wires or trellis and doesn't wreck your brickwork. I certainly wouldn't countenance a Virginia creeper or ivy as they damage mortar and brickwork (I used to work in an 18th century house, the damage done by Virginia creeper on one corner cost over £250k to fix!).

If you could bear to put across some wires and do a bit of tying in, I'd go for a wisteria. The aforementioned house had wisteria all over the back wall, on wires, and it never did any damage.

(Disclaimer: I adore wisteria and think it's criminal not to have one if you have a south facing wall and the right soil!)

Solasum · 20/03/2021 21:37

Thanks both.

I would LOVE a wisteria. But I don’t own a ladder (and could not store one) so wouldn’t easily be able to put wires etc up above the height I can reach standing on a bench. And I thought they grew a lot? There is just no way I can prune something every two weeks

With the metal window frames, it is really awkward. Unless I used something like No More Nails, there really is nothing to attach anything to. Unless I could maybe have a long narrow strip of trellis tied to a weight that could sit on the flat roof?

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