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MereDintofPandiculation · 07/03/2021 13:38

I've just found a whole Skimmia bush, about 1m high, almost completely hidden inside a huge clump of Pernettya. If you peek through the branches in one particular direction, you can just see a branch with a cluster of flower buds.

I now have to decide which I prefer - the Pernettya with its huge cluster of white berries, which will remain on the bush almost until next year's berries arrive; or the Skimmia with its scented white flowers in spring and red berries in autumn.

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MereDintofPandiculation · 07/03/2021 15:41

Has anyone else re-discovered a long lost plant in their garden?

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SirVixofVixHall · 08/03/2021 11:41

Can you dig them up and separate them, if you love both ?

thirteenbooks · 08/03/2021 12:40

When we moved in, we found a P. serotina growing through what I think was some form of Euonymus.

We kept it, but it's growing at a 45 degree angle so may spend the rest of its life staked to keep it upright!

Is the Skimmia a good shape? If its looking a bit lopsided due to growing through something else that might help make a decision (though maybe that's just because I think shaping bushes is some sort of black magic...)

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/03/2021 10:16

Can you dig them up and separate them, if you love both? No! Grin It's a pretty dense planting. The Pernettya is actually a mass of three 3 plants, red berries, white berries and a male pollinator, in total at least 2m diameter and 1.5m high. The Skimmia is in the middle. Round the edge are other precious plants - it's best to think of it as trying to dig a plant out of the middle of a rather thick hedge. They've all been there nearly 30 years. And the Pernettya has tough leaves with sharp points.

Is the Skimmia a good shape? I imagine not. I can't see enough to tell. But the planting is so dense it doesn't really matter. I've gone for a dense mass of luxuriant vegetation rather than neat domes of bushes with gaps in between.

In summer the whole area will be overtaken with berried catchfly, a most beautiful plant, almost lime green leaves shading at the tips to dark black-purple. Beautiful white petalled flowers followed by black berries. I've tried establishing elsewhere in the garden but this is the spot it really likes.

So I'm going to have a go at pruning the front half of the Pernettya, sad as it will be to cut off all those huge clumps of white berries.

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MereDintofPandiculation · 09/03/2021 10:17

P. serotina Prunus serotina? That's a lovely thing, you must have been pleased with that find.

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SirVixofVixHall · 09/03/2021 10:49

I like the sound of Catchfly, I have never seen this plant, I will get some.

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/03/2021 12:00

It's an annual but selfseeds every year. It likes moist soil and semi shade. Over the course of the season it will grow to nearly two metres, sprawling over bushes. It's not a showy plant, but the colour combination is lovely and the flowers are attractive close-up. And it's just so strange to have a catchfly or campion with round shiny black berries, which is why I bought it in the first place, all those years ago.
Silene baccifera (sun Cucubalus baccifer).

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SirVixofVixHall · 09/03/2021 13:51

I have just bought one using your link so thanks for that.

thirteenbooks · 10/03/2021 17:27

Yes, Prunus serotina. Its gorgeous, and the birds seem to love it. It's starting to fill out now that's its not constructed - it was really whippy when we first found it.

Not sure I'll be able to ever correct it's weird hump from growing sideways though!

MereDintofPandiculation · 11/03/2021 13:57

@thirteenbooks

Yes, Prunus serotina. Its gorgeous, and the birds seem to love it. It's starting to fill out now that's its not constructed - it was really whippy when we first found it.

Not sure I'll be able to ever correct it's weird hump from growing sideways though!

My garden is a complete record of my physical and mental health over the years - eg there is the canker because 25 years ago I didn’t release a tree tie when I should have done.
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