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Climbing plant help

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hugglesfor4 · 27/08/2020 11:05

I've just fitted 3 x 6ft trellis onto a west facing wall and need help with plant ideas to grow up it.

I'm thinking of a Montana clematis but would like 2 other climbers that would flower at different times of the year.

Would a Passion flower go well? Maybe a jasmine?

The trellis is set 1ft off the floor and I'm also looking for plants to go underneath the trellis to hide the ugly render by making a small hedge like border. I had been thinking of skimmia japonica.

Any ideas and advice gatefully received x

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autumneve · 27/08/2020 11:10

Montana and Passion Flowers do grow very big but can be amazing! (As long as you're aware). I always think it's nice to have an evergreen/semi evergreen in there too if you can, eg honeysuckle.

autumneve · 27/08/2020 11:12

We have sarcococca as a dense low growing shrub (are skimmias better in ericaceous soil, lovely as they are?)

hugglesfor4 · 27/08/2020 11:12

Thanks - I'd thought about a honeysuckle too but read they can be quite aggressive and take over the other plants. Not sure if that's correct though

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hugglesfor4 · 27/08/2020 11:14

I had a saracocca in a bed nearby and it didn't like it there. I have a couple of daphnes that are doing well so that could be an option

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Perching · 27/08/2020 11:18

Chocolate Vine Akebia Quinata. Bonus it’s semi-evergreen. Green throughout winter, then dumps all it’s leaves in one go before new growth emerge, iirc. I loved mine. 99pc sure twatty neighbour poisoned it 😡

billybagpuss · 27/08/2020 11:19

I had a passionflower ages ago and found it to be very aggressive and vowed never to plant it again 😂

I’ve been planning a west wall trellis too and plan new dawn rose and black prince clematis.

I’m putting in a Montana somewhere else as they do grow very big and I don’t want to overshadow the others.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 27/08/2020 11:20

Ceanothus have vivid blue flowers in spring.

Mammaaof · 27/08/2020 11:22

I have jasmine and honeysuckle on 2 different trellis and my jasmine is very slow growing (hardly grown at all) where as my honeysuckle has completely covered my trellis beautifully. I think I'm going to move the jasmine and get another honeysuckle x

ThatLibraryMiss · 27/08/2020 11:27

Clematis montana will grow HUGE. Mine's planted near the house and it's got about 40 feet down the garden.

What about Trachelospermum jasminoides? It's evergreen (may lose some leaves in cold winters) and the flowers look like jasmine, smell even better and last for months. Mine started in June and is still going strong.

AuntyFungal · 27/08/2020 11:29

www.crocus.co.uk/plants/_/actinidia-kolomikta/classid.179/

Unusual - I don’t see this often.

How about a winter flowering Jasmin. Can be clipped to form a more hedge shape for the bottom section.

Depending on where you are - trachelospermum Jasminoids (star Jasmin). Different varieties - flowers, variegated leaves.

Chilean Potato Vine. Easy to grow / clip. Blue or white flowers.

steppemum · 27/08/2020 11:37

the montana is a beautiful thug.

it will grow huge and drown anything else you plant. Then it will be covered in the most amazing flowers for a month and you will forgive it anything!
seriously, it coudl cover the whole house in 3 years.
You need to me rigorous about pruning it.
Personally I would put it somewhere where is can run riot, and against the house I would put several less viogrous and calmer plants. Like other clematis

FaffingForEngland · 27/08/2020 11:40

Mmm Montana is a thug. What about roses and - different - Clematis? I think they look lovely together.

hugglesfor4 · 27/08/2020 11:40

Oh my - all those plants are looking fantastic. The chocolate vine (love the name) looks lovely as does the black prince clematis. I've got a few roses in pots near the trellis so was fancying something different.

The trellis is quite exposed so will need to have fairly hardy plants.

Starting to think against the Montana and passionflower now as I like the idea of a couple of different climbers that flower at different times.

Did you buy your climbers from your local nursery/garden centre or from an online supplier?

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billybagpuss · 27/08/2020 12:18

www.rhs.org.uk/plants/search-Form

I find this quite useful too as you can specify aspect, soil type, exposure etc and it gives you options and more importantly pictures.

billybagpuss · 27/08/2020 12:21

I've always followed a rule that if you go to a good independent nursery they tend to stock things that do well locally. I learnt along time ago that unusual, specialist things that need attention and specific care don't do well on my watch. Grin

hugglesfor4 · 27/08/2020 12:49

Yes - that's probably a good rule to stick to. I'm not very green fingered so need plants that don't need much looking after.

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DDemelza · 27/08/2020 13:33

Quite a few type two clematises bloom twice- in May and in August. I have just got a piilu, which does this. I love it.

You also get winter-flowering clematises: freckles and others www.rhs.org.uk/plants/popular/clematis/winter-spring.

What about a climbing rose and clematis combo? Google has a lot of ideas. And there are epic clematis and rose threads on some of the gardening forums on other web sites.

I have a passionflower just starting to creep up my Western-facing wall. I plan to get a red clematis on there later, if the passionvine isn't too unruly...

Or sweet peas...

RightioMalbec · 27/08/2020 14:06

I have passionflower growing up a wall/trellis and it’s an absolute bugger. I’ve had to drag my potted patio roses well away from it and it completely killed off a clematis I originally planted 3 foot away. I really really hope it doesn’t survive the winter so I can stick Jasmine in its place!

billybagpuss · 27/08/2020 14:19

@RightioMalbec

I have passionflower growing up a wall/trellis and it’s an absolute bugger. I’ve had to drag my potted patio roses well away from it and it completely killed off a clematis I originally planted 3 foot away. I really really hope it doesn’t survive the winter so I can stick Jasmine in its place!
Oh I promise you it will, it even survives being pulled out completely and dug up. The only thing I ever had more trouble with was bindweed Grin
Beebumble2 · 27/08/2020 15:13

How about a winter flowering clematis, such as Wisley Cream? It’s evergreen with beautiful cream flowers through the winter months, then the seed heads are a pretty fluffy white.

RightioMalbec · 27/08/2020 15:32

@billybagpuss oh no! My DH is quite attached to it, I bloody hate it. Thankfully it’s in v large pots so I’ll just have to somehow get it off the trellis and out of the garden without him noticing. Visions of me trying to smuggle a 5ft by 6ft vine out Grin

hugglesfor4 · 27/08/2020 16:09

I've just found an online nursery that sells just clematis and I've now seen about 10 different ones I like!

Think I need a bigger wall Grin

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hugglesfor4 · 27/08/2020 16:43

I really like these 2 clematis. They're both dual flowering and can't decide whether to get both with a winter flowering climber or try for 3 separate flowering times

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DDemelza · 27/08/2020 17:48

Those are both beautiful!

I have heard a lot of people praising Taylor's for online clematis orders, though mine have come from other sources (Wilko, Lidl and mail order nurseries on Amazon).

autumneve · 30/08/2020 13:29

All these suggestions are really lovely ideas.
I agree with others in that if you think honeysuckle will be aggressive then I'd stay clear of the Montanas- in my view they even bigger than honeysuckles.

Just had another idea- clematis armandii- slower growing so easy to control and divine fragrant flowers. Glossy larger leaves.

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