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Can anyone identify this please?!

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Bargebill19 · 05/08/2020 15:37

Can anyone identify this plant ? It seems to like our raised borders, but it’s not something we’ve planted. So far it has produced lots of leaves but no flowers.

Can anyone identify this please?!
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NanTheWiser · 05/08/2020 18:00

Butterbur - Petasites hybridus I think.

Bargebill19 · 05/08/2020 20:38

Thank you!! Much appreciated.

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mosquitofeast · 05/08/2020 20:40

I don't think so. I think its coltsfoot

dementedma · 05/08/2020 20:41

I thought butterbur

Bargebill19 · 05/08/2020 20:56

The leaves can grow quite large - not as big as rhubarb leaves but very close. I think it is probably butterbur as suggested. The coltsfoot looks to have smaller than an adult hand print sized leaves?

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mosquitofeast · 05/08/2020 20:58

Yes, coltsfoot is small.

wowfudge · 05/08/2020 21:37

Interesting - butterbur is in some migraine treatments, but it's been banned in the UK. Not sure why!

mnahmnah · 05/08/2020 21:38

According to my plant app, it’s coltsfoot

NanTheWiser · 05/08/2020 22:43

Never depend on plant apps! They are often wrong...

mosquitofeast · 05/08/2020 22:50

I said coltsfoot before I heard how big the leaves were

cathyandclare · 06/08/2020 11:07

I think it's coltsfoot, ours gets that big.

Bargebill19 · 06/08/2020 12:17

Some more photos. Size seven foot for reference!!

Can anyone identify this please?!
Can anyone identify this please?!
Can anyone identify this please?!
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MereDintofPandiculation · 06/08/2020 22:21

The young leaves have a white covering. That would make it coltsfoot not butterbur. The leaves don't seem too large for coltsfoot. But then the leaves with the foot don't look quite right for Coltsfoot.

So I've turned to Poland and Clement "The Vegetative Key to the British Flora", and I think you could tell by the leaf stalks - cut a section through the leaf stalk:

Coltsfoot - solid, and flat-topped, and you will be able to see 9 vascular bundles in a neat arc, like the nails on a horseshoe.

Butterbur and Giant butterbur have hollow leaf stalks, which change colour when cut - butterbur to orange, Giant butterbur to purple. Finally, white butterbur and Winter heliotrope have round leaf stalks.
All the butterburs have their vascular bundles arranged randomly, and they have at least 10 of them - more like 20-30.

So - over to you!

BeautifulWoman · 06/08/2020 23:09

We have butterbur in our garden, it is an absolute thug. It's roots are so strong that they punctured the butyl liner in one of our ponds. As It grows It kills any other plants in its way, we had Gunnera and that's disappeared completely. It is taking forever to dig up and remove ( we have a separate compost area for pernicious weeds) we don't use weed killer. The bees love the flowers which appear first and then the leaves, it's a lovely looking plant but it will take over and you will grow to hate it.

Bargebill19 · 06/08/2020 23:21

Ok I’m going to cut the stalks tomorrow.

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Bargebill19 · 06/08/2020 23:24

Attack of the strummer seems to keep it under control.
Sadly the strimmer and other garden tools are currently being held hostage by mum car and kittens (feral) which are living in the shed. (Another story entirely but at least they are no longer under the car).

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