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A fragrant, flowering all summer shrub?

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Vodkacranberryplease · 26/07/2020 18:24

Ever since I got my garden I've wanted to fill it with fragrant plants. I bought several philadelphus from Poundland which turned out to be deutzia, have honeysuckle and jasmine (not doing that well in pots).

Can anyone recommend anything that flowers all summer and smells lovely? That doesn't need full sun? I've taken a small but useless fruit tree out so have a not too bad spot in my border. Nothing huge though please!

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Vodkacranberryplease · 27/07/2020 11:05

Thanks all! I am aiming for year around flowering and scent where possible! So a long flowering season trumps smell in this case. I've got tree lilies planted this year in pots but they look so big in pots (not full size yet) so will have to go in a border but god knows where. I've got them in pots because they finish flowering and then that's that.

I would love to rehome my jasmine but haven't a sunny spot so have decided to repot it and the big climbing rose buying bigger pots. I'll give them both a good prune too.

Definitely a Philadelphus if they will take shade half the day? Manteu hermione keeps getting mentioned if anyone has it? An Irish Rose could be good too - will check that one out. Guess whichever flowers the longest and will take some shade will win.

Really hard when you have a garden with shade from trees and fences! That's also south facing so in theory should be fantastic!

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Vodkacranberryplease · 27/07/2020 11:10

Ok so I have Choiysa and it flowered for a few weeks much earlier this year but has been over for weeks now. And I'm wondering if that's my fault cause it's in a pot!

And buddleia is everywhere at the moment but none have any scent! I'm going to keep an eye on them as the ones I see are in parks or front gardens and I don't think very attractive but a bit of looking after might make a big difference.

The bit I'm thinking of is SE facing so gets strong afternoon sun and some in the earlier morning though.

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wonkylegs · 27/07/2020 11:16

We have two Philadelphus one is in partial shade and one is in almost complete shade, don't know why but the previous owners planted it between the garage and the fence under a huge larch tree.
They are both beautiful and smell heavenly and cope with their not to great positioning.

MereDintofPandiculation · 27/07/2020 11:22

Most of the things being suggested don't flower all summer, eg philadelphus which is already over, buddleia which is late summer only. I think I agree with you that a repeat flowering rose is your best option.

Winter scent is almost easier with the obvious Viburnum bodnantense being the front runner, flowering from autumn through to spring.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/07/2020 12:27

buddleia which is late summer only.

Mine has been in flower a while now, I wouldn't call this 'late summer'!Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 27/07/2020 12:39

If you want long flowering then apart from the shrubs I'd have some pots of annuals. They're minimal work and don't take much space. In the cooler months, some of the violas, pansies and polyanthus. Put some scented narcissi in with those.
In summer, alyssum has a gorgeous honey scent.

Vodkacranberryplease · 27/07/2020 13:35

Ive got a Viburnum Tinus which was just fantastic over winter - but Ive moved it as its not flowering now! Also a lovely big Lilac (gorgeous smell - but not for long). A Camelia in a pot, & a Sarcocca (moved it to a bigger pot & hoping for good things this winter). All of which need to be moved around when not in flower. Then Deutzia, Choiysa not flowering now.

Ive got lots of different perennials & some annuals & am gradually working out which are the stars of the garden (yes its true about Geranium Rozanne!). Salvias which started a few weeks ago & wont stop. Dahlias (in pots) which are massive & some have started now - amazing in late summer. Begonias under the tree & in troughs with a limited amount of sun. Love them! Thunbergia & Morning Glory Grandpa Otts. A couple of Hebes in pots. Acanthus Mollis at the back of the shady borders which have been great but two arent flowering this year (fucking snails I think)

On the West facing fence a Chilean Potato vine which flowers for months on end (since May - to October) www.gardenersworld.com/plants/solanum-crispum-glasnevin/

A Daphne (started very small but doing well now & has had a few flowers on it for months). Lots of lavender. A David Austin cimbing rose for shade (gets good morning sun) that isnt liking the pot I think.

Peonies in pots that never did that well because they dont get enough sun. Lots of snapdragon (bought late), night scented phlox (new), osteopermums, Campanula & geum in pots. Nigella.

2 big afternoon sun troughs with a hollyhock (way too big), passiflora (doing well, just moved), another honeysuckle, & dahlias. Jasmines that were lovely for a few weeks.

Loads & loads of pots. Ive bought perennials, & bare root plants from poundland which have done well - too well, in fact I need to start selling plants. Pelargonium (just bought) & Petunias in the window boxes.

Its a lot to cram in & Ive got a couple of quite shady borders with plants that mostly seem to flower in spring & early summer then stop - though this year an anemone is doing well. The others not so much.

Aquilegia & poppy I was gutted to find werent summer flowering!

Ive even managed to almost get sweet peas growing in a pot (not quite). Not having 'full' sun is a massive PITA if you like that whole 'lots of flowers, lots of scent' thing. The 'sunny' spot is actually paved & the spot in my border not next to where I sit.

I spend my life moving things around & have plastic pots to go into terracotta ones so out of season plants can be moved - but theres nowhere to move them to now.

So its time for a big clear out! And to only get plants that work very hard.

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WokusPocus · 27/07/2020 15:19

David Austin - Mortimer Sackler rose. Pink, smells lovely and produces a ridiculous amount of blooms. It's DH's pride and joy!

gardeninggirl14 · 27/07/2020 15:57

My lavatera just keeps on and on flowering, its covered in bees for months. Its not fragrant but its definitely worth it as you get flowers non-stop all summer and into the autumn. Be careful which type you go for though, some get huge.

WellTidy · 27/07/2020 16:23

My salvias flower for months. I like the sage smell, but not everyone does. Particularly long flowering are Salvia Cerro potosi (cerise flowers, quite bushy) and S. Amistad (deep purple flowers, taller). More suited to beds than pots. Do better in full sun, but mine are in part sun part shade and they do really well.

WellTidy · 27/07/2020 16:24

I agree that a lavatera flowers for months. I have Barnsley Baby which is a small-ish one (maybe 4 foot height and 3 foot spread).

Vodkacranberryplease · 28/07/2020 19:17

Lavatera Barnsley baby that's it! I've heard of it and tried to get one but.. lockdown. I'll add that to my list. Very pretty little shrub which would also be lovely in a nice pot.

Think I'm going to try and sell some plants - has anyone had any luck selling larger plants? Schpock snd gumtree havent been much use so far.

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MereDintofPandiculation · 28/07/2020 21:36

Mine has been in flower a while now, I wouldn't call this 'late summer'! Mine's only just showing buds. Roses and philadelphus are over, so it's late summer here. We're well into fruiting season, and I shall have ripe apples by the time the buddleia is in full bloom.

MereDintofPandiculation · 28/07/2020 21:38

You could consider one of the big "flowered" cornus, Cornus kousa, for example. The "petals" are in fact bracts, so they last for ages and ages, well after the plant has finished flowering.

HasaDigaEebowai · 29/07/2020 13:22

Although my cornus kousa doesn't smell of anything.. Looks pretty though.

My buddleia are just coming out (east mids) but we were down in Cornwall last week and there were lots that had gone to seed already

MereDintofPandiculation · 30/07/2020 11:55

No. Cornus kousa doesn't small, I' sorry, I meant to say I was picking up on OPs earlier comment that if push came to shove, length of flowering trumped scent.

My steady succession of scent in the year is Viburnum bodnantense (much stronger smelling that V tinus, and more floriferous), then wallflowers and Dame's Violet, then Euphorbia mellifera (knock-out honey smell, but large), then sweet peas and roses (including a sweet briar, whose leaves give off an apple scent especially after rain), then honeysuckle. When the final honeysuckle finishes in August, I'm a bit short of obvious scents, but it's not long before the Viburnum starts again. And in August and September I've got all the things I've sowed for fun, some of which will be scented, some not. Sweet alyssum is surprisingly good, I'm discovering, seeds itself everywhere, and is in flower it seems all the year round, a gentle scent that you don't really notice but is always in the background.

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