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Wildflower ID please

22 replies

BuddingGardener · 16/06/2020 14:07

Hi I hope you can help.
I threw a packet of butterfly and bee attracting seeds in a pot.
They grew that much that I have put them in 2 pots, I know they are massively overcrowded but I don't have space for any more potsSmile
Does anyone know what they are?
To me it looks like long clover leaves and the tall thing looks like a weed although it has buds on it
I've lots of green in my garden but not many flowers yet
I tried a Plant App which was rubbish
Hope you can help Smile

Wildflower ID please
Wildflower ID please
Wildflower ID please
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ErrolTheDragon · 16/06/2020 15:05

The first one looks like one of the knapweed family - I don't know which, some of them are rather lovely. It will be easier to tell when the flowers are out.

ErrolTheDragon · 16/06/2020 15:09

I'm wondering if the one in with the clover is flax?

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 16/06/2020 15:13

First pic is scabious or knapweed - wait till it flowers and you'll be able to tell. Plant apps are great when the plant is in flower - I did a free trial of PictureThis to clear up a few queries on my regular walks.

ppeatfruit · 16/06/2020 15:19

The large one is a cornflower, centaurea, or knapweed, they will open up to a lovely dark\mid blue daisy type flower. They need staking ,mine have blown over with the winds, they are still lovely though. The shorter floppy leaved one is difficult to name. it'll probably be easier to recognise when it does flower.

ppeatfruit · 16/06/2020 15:39

It could be Rutaceae or Hop tree Water ash, it has green flowers that are a bit like angelica. it's the only one that looks like yours in my RHS Plant Guide book .

Pollyputthepizzaon · 16/06/2020 15:43

The first one really looks like knapweed but as others have said when it flowers soon it will become obvious.

Are any of the others on here maybe? www.scottishwildflowers.org/

ppeatfruit · 16/06/2020 16:47

I think that the 2nd floppy looking one one looks like young ivy, the leaves start out like that. I've got the same in my garden. The flowers arrive very late and are nothing special BUT the birds and insects love them. It climbs so you'll need to put it by your fence or wherever.

ppeatfruit · 16/06/2020 16:51

BTW bees and butterflies are attracted to "weeds" as you call them , they are just wild plants. The ivy will have round black berries eventually.

MereDintofPandiculation · 17/06/2020 11:59

First one, as people are saying, is a knapweed or cornflower, ie a Centaurea. It's not a scabious. The black eyelashes on the bud show that it's not common knapweed (which has the eyelashes in straight-bottomed triangle at the top of the green scale) or greater knapweed (which has the eyelashes in an inverted horseshoe at the top of the green scale). Pattern of eyelashes is very similar to Centaurea montana, the perennial cornflower, but the leaves look too narrow for that. But I'd expect it to be a cornflower rather than a knapweed.

Yes, bees an butterflies are attracted to "weeds", ie plants native to the country they're living in. But failing that, they can be attracted to what the RHS calls "near natives", northern European plants. What's no use to them is plants like the double opium poppies where pollen bearing stamens have been converted to extra petals, or exotics adapted to pollination by hummingbirds etc. I don't think there's much in that pot that looks native! the Centaurea isn't and I'm not convinced that the clover is one of ours.

ppeatfruit · 17/06/2020 12:54

Do you think the floppy leaved one is ivy Mere?

It's funny about the Centaurea because the RHS book I mentioned calls it "Knapweed" in brackets beneath.

BuddingGardener · 17/06/2020 15:49

Thanks for all your comments and suggestions, I've checked all suggestions and I'm still not sure what I've got. I'm going to have to be patient.
I will update when they flower Grin

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MereDintofPandiculation · 18/06/2020 09:56

Do you think the floppy leaved one is ivy Mere? I was trying to work out which one you meant. I couldn't see anything that I thought was ivy.

Centaurea nigra - knapweed, Centaurea scabiosa - greater knapweed - Centaurea montana - perennial cornflower, Centaurea cyanus - cornflower. All in the same genus.

ppeatfruit · 18/06/2020 10:16

The short plant with wide leaves in the pot in front of the cornflowers!

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 18/06/2020 11:09

That looks like a variety of clover. Not ivy.

MereDintofPandiculation · 19/06/2020 10:07

Clover. The leaves are clearly trefoil, 3 leaflets joined.

ppeatfruit · 19/06/2020 11:06

My young ivy, the new leaves,not the old, looks like it. Clover is tiny surely? Oh well perhaps the OP has got the packet somewhere Grin

BuddingGardener · 19/06/2020 14:36

Unfortunately the packet is in the bin.
I moved them to a more sheltered area, more buds but none have opened yet
Will update with any progress

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MereDintofPandiculation · 20/06/2020 11:07

Clover is tiny surely Depends which clover. White clover is a few inches high, and in a lawn will grow prostrate. Red clover and zigzag clover is typically about 20 - 30cm high. I have a non-UK clover which is nearly 50cm high.

BuddingGardener · 20/06/2020 19:11

Hi
Another plant has appeared Smile
Don't know what this one is either I've added a photo of it and another of the plants at their new spot

Wildflower ID please
Wildflower ID please
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MereDintofPandiculation · 21/06/2020 07:55

Vaguely like Tagetes, but that's by no means a firm identification.

Tumbleweed101 · 21/06/2020 09:56

I’d imagine this one is a red clover, I think they tend to be added to such mixes. I think you have cornflowers in there too.

ppeatfruit · 21/06/2020 10:14

Yes to clover, not ivy, the marks on the leaves are showing now, it's a large type as you say Mere The big one in the middle I've not seen before , it looks a bit like basil, maybe 'green rufflles'

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