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How to turn a flower bed into a veg patch?

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Bubblesbubblesmybubbles · 31/03/2020 15:19

Is this doable at the moment seeing as garden centres are shut? We were thinking abour doing it anyway but now have more time at home. I know NOTHING about gardening so i apologise if its a stupid question

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SquishySquirmy · 31/03/2020 16:12

I have limited expertise, but I think it will depend on how much light the bed gets and the condition of the soil. The flower bed in our small garden is very shady, so I am not going to even try converting that into a veg patch as most vegetables need a decent amount of sunlight.

What are you thinking about growing?
What is your soil like at the moment, and what kinds of plants thrive there now?

Also although garden centres are shut, it is still possible to order online (opinions on the ethics of this vary, personally I think if you do buy online it is better to NOT order anything very heavy or bulky at the moment - ie nothing that can't be safely carried by one person).

Bubblesbubblesmybubbles · 31/03/2020 17:04

We have options, very sunny to very shaded and in the middle.

We were thinking tomatoes maybe not sure what else, we generally like veg so would go for whatever is easiest!

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Speminalium · 31/03/2020 17:08

Look up Charles Dowding on YouTube, and Moreveg for good but cheap seeds. Between them you'll be ok! Great time to start.

Bubblesbubblesmybubbles · 31/03/2020 17:33

Brilliant thank you

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VivaLeBeaver · 31/03/2020 17:35

Ideally load of forking in of compost. But it’s hard to get compost at the minute. Think places like The Range have had some but I hear stocks are very low.

So you might just have to bung seeds in and see how it goes. Again seeds are/were low on stock levels with online retailers. Not sure if this has improved since a week ago.

Bubblesbubblesmybubbles · 31/03/2020 18:30

I did wonder if we'd need compost, I'm pregnant so keen to avoid any extra shops but i know a delivery is highly unlikely

Yes i think everyone has had the same idea! I'll see what we can get hold of and decide from there

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SquishySquirmy · 31/03/2020 18:35

I would start seeds off indoors on a sunny windowsill rather than straight in the ground to give them the best chance of germinating. Ideally in compost, so if you can get hold of any I would hold some back when forming into the soil.
If you can't find compost, I would dig an fork over the soil anyway to get it as broken up as possible before planting.

In terms of what to plant I would go for relatively easy veg, that gives you a decent yield to effort ratio, and of course only ones you enjoy eating!
I've grown things before but still quite a beginner. This is what I am planting to keep things simple for myself:

Runner beans - supposedly quite easy and can be very productive, so I am hoping the reward to effort ratio will be good. Also I have some seeds already which I never got around to planting last year!
Peas- kelvedon wonder, I have grown these before and fairly easy. They germinate very easily too. My DC like to eat them straight front the pod so a good way to make them eat veg!
Just approaching optimum time to plant and grow peas and runner beans, so still time to order and germinate.

Potatoes - I have not grown before, but seem straightforward. Seed potatoes still available online - I ordered from my local garden centre's website. I am going for Jazzy "second earlies" and King Edward "maincrop". I am also experimenting by attempting to plant some sprouty supermarket Maris pipers. I am chitting them first. If planting in the ground apparantly it's good to prepare and warm the soil first, by leaving black sheeting (could use bin bags?) Over it while the potatoes chit. A little bit later than ideal to start planting potatoes, but ok I think.

Tomatoes - don't plant in the same bed as potatoes! They like very rich soil I think. Can you get hold of veg fertiliser if no compost?

I am also trying to germinate parsnips and leeks from out of date seeds (found when rummaging through seed tin). And "patty pan" squash from some in date but old seeds.

I am not going to bother with hard crops like carrots.

Fruit - in the past I have had great success with strawberries, including alpine strawberries from seed. They grew really fast, and sent out loads of runners so I got extra plants.
Herbs like rosemary, thyme, mint, chives grow well outside. Some salad too.

Most of my growing is in pots. I ordered coir compost as this takes up less space in transit, and I am enriching it with fertiliser. Not ideal but needs must!

There is loads of info and tips online about what different plants need and the best way to grow them (earthing up potatoes etc) so well worth spending some time researching whatever you do decide to plant. Of course in real life it is often not possible to provide ideal conditions, still worth trying anyway!

MereDintofPandiculation · 01/04/2020 10:33

Climbing French beans as an alternative to runners. Seem to cope better with drought, less rich soil, and lack of pollinators.

Mange-tout or sugar snap peas, so you eat the pods as well.

If you think you'd like it, swiss chard, bit like spinach, but you can eat the stems as well. If you can get it in mixed colours, it looks very decorative.

Kale, especially the dark caballo nero types

Cucumbers were much easier than I expected.

Fairybatman · 01/04/2020 10:44

Tomatoes and strawberries are fantastic to grow in hanging baskets or wall baskets. Makes pest control so much easier.

Spinach, potatoes, chard, courgettes, spring onions are all fairly easy to grow.

Fairybatman · 01/04/2020 11:06

Peas and beans are straightforward but need canes or met to climb

Bubblesbubblesmybubbles · 01/04/2020 13:29

Wow thank you all, loads to look into!! I think we might just give it a go and see what happens

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