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Find tips and tricks to make your garden or allotment flourish on our Gardening forum.

2020 new Gardeners’ thread

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FoolsAssassin · 29/03/2020 07:12

I think there will be a lot of people this year looking to grow veg and things generally. Thought I would be goof if those of us who have been growing for a bit could help those getting started,

I’m far from expert but a few allotments over the years and I know there are lots of people on here who are far more knowledgeable than me. So if anyone has any questions please feel free to ask and will see what we can do.

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MereDintofPandiculation · 06/04/2020 11:02

Does anyone know the best way to compost woody shrubs? Cut small, If you're using the compost for mulching it doesn't really matter if the twigs aren't completely rotted, what you need is them short enough not to make it difficult to shovel the compost. Andthing that's too big for the secateurs to manage, stack up as a "habitat pile" in the back of a border somewhere.

If you have space, you could have two heaps, one for fine twigs and all the usual stuff, the other for the thicker twigs (although add some grass cuttings and soil now and again to help it along) which you leave for a couple of years before using.

@TiddleTaddleTat You'd know by now if they weren't OK.

@NewYearNewTwatName They always take a lot longer than you expect. Best to avoid poking - you might knock a shoot off.

@jcurve About 6 ft, although they'll grow taller if you let them - I let mine scramble over a large hazel bush, and had to use a stepladder for picking.

I've grown butternut squash in a large tub for lack of anything else - one squash per plant, so not really worth it.

@KateF I would use the usable stuff. Is the dry stuff broken down? ie is it basically dry soil with bits in? In that case, water it well and use that too. The eggshells are not a problem.

If you have a stack of weeds waiting to go in, I would sandwich that with anything not already rotted, otherwise, just put the unrotted stuff at the bottom as a starter. If it's dry, give it a good water.

Chewbecca · 06/04/2020 13:36

Is there anything I could be doing to my plot whilst I am waiting for my seedlings to grow?
Our soil is not good, clay and lumpy. DH has turned it over. We don't have any compost.

TroysMammy · 06/04/2020 17:41

My DP puts egg shells in the oven then grinds them up in a coffee grinder before adding to the compost bin.

livingthegoodlife · 06/04/2020 19:46

To the pp about butternut squash - I definitely did not get only one per plant. I had about 5 growing along the vine. I found them to be very good at producing.

Today I moved my corn seedlings outside and planted them in a raised bed. Fingers crossed it's not too cold for them. The rest of the raised bed will house beetroot & a couple of courgette plants.

I also moved a few more trays of seedlings from my conservatory to the greenhouse.

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LooseleafTea · 06/04/2020 20:13

chewbecca it would really help to feed the soil any way you can - do you have any access to rotted manure/ seaweed? If not you could start to make your own compost or even just bury food waste in the ground which apparently our ancestors used to.

LooseleafTea · 06/04/2020 20:14

Another option I guess is green manure - I am experimenting with it this year as it adds goodness to the soil and I was thinking of sowing it in between areas of veg!

Ihavenoidewhatsgoingon · 06/04/2020 20:22

@livingthegoodlife I am planting my corn tomorrow - am soaking the seeds overnight in the hope that hurries them along.. have Never grown corn before - do you have any hints 🌽

Chewbecca · 06/04/2020 20:59

Well I do live close to the estuary, have never looked for weed down there for the garden though! Maybe I should take a longer walk with a bag on the weekend, I never thought of that.

What sort of food would you bury?

ihavenoidea I sowed sweetcorn seeds 2 weeks ago on a tray in the greenhouse. It finally started sprouting a day or two ago. I am not sure it’s ready to be outside yet?

Chewbecca · 06/04/2020 21:02

I do have some tomorite.

RubySlippers77 · 06/04/2020 23:13

@KateF our local B&Q is selling compost (and other products!) with a click & collect non-contact service. Or there are also a couple of garden centres offering delivery services, presumably to shift stock whilst they can. I've heard that there's massive amounts of garden stuff - mainly plants - which needs to be sold to stop small suppliers going under Sad

I hope you can get some soon - I even tried Wilko online but they're sold out of everything!

livingthegoodlife · 07/04/2020 08:33

@Ihavenoidewhatsgoingon I didn't bother soaking mine. I usually sow indoors in individual pits or cell trays until about the size in my picture then move outdoors. I once tried to sow direct outdoors and they never grew! You need to plant in a block formation so not long row but 4 x 4 etc. They don't need a lot of space as they like growing close together. A sunny spot. They don't mind a bit of neglect! They do grow quite tall, about a metre or so.

Good luck! Picking corn and putting it straight on the BBQ and eating it slathered in butter is my favourite way to consume!

MereDintofPandiculation · 07/04/2020 10:02

To the pp about butternut squash - I definitely did not get only one per plant. I had about 5 growing along the vine. I found them to be very good at producing. Was that in a pot or in the ground? Mine were in pots.

MereDintofPandiculation · 07/04/2020 10:05

Chewbecca Are you planning to grow runner beans? If so, dig a trench where you're planning to grow them, fill it with anything compostable, including cardboard, veg peelings etc, then put the soil back in on top.

LIZS · 07/04/2020 10:25

If you have any clear fruit containers from supermarkets - grapes, strawberries etc- they make great cloches and some even fit over coloured containers from mushrooms. Egg boxes can be good for seeds too as you can plant out each section separately and they decompose.

TiddleTaddleTat · 07/04/2020 10:34

My understanding about putting compostable material in for runner beans is that you're meant to do that the autumn before planting?
I'd be concerned about veg scraps etc attracting mice etc , and not being much good until they'd rotten down.

ednatheevilwitch · 07/04/2020 10:37

Ooooh so glad I've found you. I'm planting but in a temporary rented house do really having to adopt a make do and mend attitude. I've started off beans, chillis, tomatoes, peas, peppers, courgette and squash so far. Only planted a couple of each so far. Can't get hold of any canes so not sure what to do!

Ihavenoidewhatsgoingon · 07/04/2020 12:21

@livingthegoodlife. thats what I am hoping for! Fingers crossed!!

livingthegoodlife · 07/04/2020 12:29

I grow my butternut squash in a raised bed, I can fit 2 or three plants in a bed about 2 x 3 m. Perhaps you get less fruit in a pot with more compact roots? Interesting.

Great tip of LIZ on cloches. I'll remember to keep some!

Today's garden job has been scrubbing fences and gates with bleach to try and wash off the green algae stuff which has covered them over the winter. I hope it's worked as it was hard work.

Also had a wooden arch way arrive yesterday which I'm looking forward to getting built over the weekend.

A few of my plants in my greenhouse look a bit sad. I've watered but not sure if they are thirsty or too cold at night? Or too hot in day! They are a bit wilted. Damp soil though.

Beebumble2 · 07/04/2020 12:50

I don’t keep a compost bin, previous trouble with rats! Despite clean compost.
Now I have a plastic bowl next to the sink, in it I put ground coffee and green tea dregs, cut up banana peel and citrus peel. Every day I dig it in to areas of the garden. A bonus is that cats don’t like the smell of the coffee, so don’t go pooing.

Beebumble2 · 07/04/2020 12:53

Edna plants can grow up string ( or wool). Can you fashion a pole across the green house/ garden and attach string that you anchor at the bottom. Climbing plants should be able to grow up.

Ihavenoidewhatsgoingon · 07/04/2020 13:19

Is coffee good for the soil? I read it was then having put it in the garden something else that said it wasn't so now I have no idea.

I do try to keep egg shells / banana peels and break those up and dig them into my pots

Beebumble2 · 07/04/2020 13:37

I’ve been putting the grounds on my soil for a few years, no problems.

7Days · 07/04/2020 14:37

I saw a rat at my compost bin.
What should I do?
I have a cat, but he is lazy

ThePittts · 07/04/2020 15:21

Apparently rats don't like noise, so can you make a noise near the compost bin, and hope they don't settle.

FoolsAssassin · 07/04/2020 16:00

Think there is a big difference between butternut squash in a pot versus the ground. Squash plants are 'hungry' plants and like to get their roots down in rich soil so it you grow in a pot you would expect a smaller yield.

Chewbecca it might be worth looking on local Facebook page to see what local companies are delivering.one of our local ones has well rotted manure.

Edna it might be worth asking on FB . Someone asked on ours and someone cut some over grown bamboo down for them to use.

Which plants are looking sad livingthegoodlife?

Yes people put coffee grounds in soil I havenoidea

Rats are a PITA and I have been lucky. We do have cats but also have a fine wire mesh under the heap (plastic container type thing ) and have been lucky so far.

Been planting some patio fruit trees that have spent 2 years waiting for a home . Soil is really stony but hopefully they will do something.

Watching Gardener's World. They are doing a bit on starting veg by thr look of it.

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