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New garden - help me work out what's in here! (with pics)

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MunsteadWood · 11/03/2020 16:34

Just moved house, garden a bit of a mess but west facing and sunny with lots of potential. Nice sunny south bed running along one side with a mix of shrubs, a few (heavily pruned) trees and a load of ground cover which is probably a mix of emerging perennial shoots and weeds.

I've gone round today trying to work out what's in the bed (lots of roses, an enormous rosemary, some old lavender, daffodils, pulmonarias, some box) but there a few I can't ID!

Can any of you wise MNers help? What have I got? I want to get weeding but am scared I'll accidentally chuck something lovely on the compost heap!

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AnneOfCloves · 11/03/2020 17:23

The anthers on the blossom look a bit big for quince to me, maybe? Certainly very pretty!

I don’t know where you are in the UK but this is early for my plum trees - maybe something like a cherry plum, which is quite an early flowering one?

steppemum · 11/03/2020 17:29

peonies
iris?
weeds
blind daffs?

steppemum · 11/03/2020 17:30

the tiny purpley ones in amongst the weeds are something like liverwort? I love them, little wild flower types

trickyex · 11/03/2020 17:31

I agree Anne on closer inspection the anthers arent those of a Quince, some kind of Prunus, I thought quince as its early but the blossoms not right and the OP says they are trees not shrubs.
And yes to Peonies pushing up.

steppemum · 11/03/2020 17:31

whoops just googled and obviously not liverwort!

steppemum · 11/03/2020 17:33

Lungwort!
pulmonaria to give it its proper name

steppemum · 11/03/2020 17:35

and just realised that pulmonary is the latin for lung (pulmonary artery etc)
well there you go!

trickyex · 11/03/2020 17:36

Re the 'non flowering daffs', the foliage looks like Crocosmia but not sure they would have any leaves now normally
www.crocus.co.uk/plants/_/crocosmia-lucifer/classid.1055/

taptonaria27 · 11/03/2020 17:40

The first one of the second set where the reddish parts are emerging from the ground are peonies.
The little yellow flowers are a weed of some sort I think (but that may be because I don't like yellow flowers except daffodils!)

steppemum · 11/03/2020 17:40

the non flowering daffs in the last picture are not crocosmia, crocosmia has flat stems at the bottom, those are daff stems.

The tall flat leaves on a previous picture could be crocosmia, but mine aren't that tall yet. Mind you neither are my iris (which is what I thought they were)

trickyex · 11/03/2020 18:30

I think they are Iris (not the non flowering daffs but the other pic) but they may the non fancy Stinking Iris which has lots of foliage as its evergreen
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Iris_foetidissima-flower-5.jpg

MunsteadWood · 11/03/2020 18:35

Ooh thanks, this is all great stuff! We're south so maybe a bit warmer than other parts?

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MunsteadWood · 11/03/2020 18:43

Hmmm stinking iris doesn't sound so much like what I want in my garden. There's quite a lot of it, leaves growing from rhizomes and about a foot tall. I guess the sensible thing to do is leave it in and see what I think when it flowers... but I'm not the most patient of gardeners!

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MunsteadWood · 11/03/2020 18:45

And I wondered whether the little purple/red shoots were peonies!! They're planted in quite a shady part of the garden so might benefit from being moved into a sunnier location.

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MunsteadWood · 11/03/2020 18:46

I think the little yellow flowers (weeds?) are celandine. There's loads of it.

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DobbyTheHouseElk · 11/03/2020 19:00

I still say it’s a damson, it looks exactly the same as mine right now. Not quince.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 11/03/2020 19:01

Yellow flowers, yes a weed and an annoying one at that.

That pic is all weed.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 11/03/2020 19:03

Peonies and daffodils? Maybe some other allium type. Leave and see what happens.

Irises not day lilies. They have a fan effect of leaves.

AnneOfCloves · 11/03/2020 19:06

A damson is a plum, so we can all feel terribly united now Wink

steppemum · 11/03/2020 19:06

peonies are notoriously hard to move.
and I have one that was here when we moved in and every year it comes up looking lovely and then dies rather than flower, and every year I think I'll dig it up an dthen it diappears under the ground and I forget.

The best thing to do is to sit tight on most things until you have seen them flower.
We had a huge clump of iris, looked amazing structural, in a circle, then they flowered, tiny little heads that lasted a day or two. They have gone.

The celandine pic isn't all weed, isn't that where the pulmonaria is? (keep it, it is pretty and doesn't spread badly)
remove celandine as soon as poss, it spread like a....weed.

MunsteadWood · 11/03/2020 19:45

The pulmonarias are lovely, there are a few clumps of them (in amongst the celandine and a load of bergenias which I'm also planning to dig up - not a fan...)

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Wallywobbles · 11/03/2020 20:10

Tree with white flowers is pear I think.

Wallywobbles · 11/03/2020 20:11

There's a plant identification app called picture this. It tries very hard to make you buy it but it's not necessary.

Trethew · 11/03/2020 21:17

Second set:

Peony
Sisyrinchium striatum
Celandine and lpulmonaria

MereDintofPandiculation · 11/03/2020 22:50

Too early for pear, isn't it? I don't think pear flowers on a bare stem.

Stinking iris - also called roast beef plant. It's a beautiful think, subtly marked mauve flowers, followed by bright orange seeds. Well worth having in the garden.

Yes to celandine (lesser celandine, in the buttercup family - greater celandine is a completely unrelated plant in the poppy family). Difficult to get rid of because of all the little bulbils. It's saving grace is that it dies down quite quickly after flowering. I've given up thoughts of eradication, just gone for containment.

If your Hypericum is Tutsan, it has yellow flowers, then black berries and well-coloured autumn foliage. If it's Rose of Sharon it has huge yellow flowers but no other virtues.

Definitely daffodils, just not flowering for some reason. They could be very late (I have some which don't flower till nearly May by which time I'm just not in daffodil mood), or they could have got overcrowded so the main bulb gave up and you just have the surrounding bulblets not yet at flowering size, or they might really dislike the conditions.

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