Valerian, Caraway, Angelica and Astrantia.

[florentina1]

Does anyone grow these? If so, can you tell me when they flower. I have these together in a bed. There are lots of leaves which all look similar but I cannot see any sigh or flowers forming.

I have Astrantia and Valerian already flowering for 2/3 weeks but nothing from my Angelica :(
What the sun exposure on your bed?

They are in sun but slightly shaded by my trees. I think the bed is over crowded so, if they don’t flower I might divide them next year . Ido th think my Astrantia will flower now.

Astrantia can flower slightly later - I have a crammed semi shaded bed and mine are blooming now but have been in there 2 years. They didn't do much the first year! Neither did the valerian. Angelica has only been in a couple of months so not sure what it's going to do......

There is loads of valerian round where I live in Yorkshire- it sneaks its way into crevices and stones and pavements and fenceposts- it’s gorgeous if a real thug of a plant. Maybe your soil is too rich? It does seem to thrive and flower lots in crap places.
I am a v rookie gardener though- the rhs website is good for advice about this kind of stuff.

Saw your thread title and thought Mrs Rees-Mogg had given birth to quads

@Greensleeves .
I thought it was a baby names thread!

Florentina is proud to announce the birth of Quads. I so wish this was what I was posting about.

Mind you, I have just back-to-back watched, ‘Out-daughtered’ about Quins and the mother of Sextuplets and three older boys. Maybe I will stick to worrying about my garden and be grateful that all my kids came individually.

My Astrantia is already flowering.The Astrantia likes dappled shade, the valerian will cope, though it prefers sun, I would expect the caraway and possibly the angelica to prefer somewhere sunnier.

Caraway has feathery leaves, astrantia has roundish deeply lobed leaves, angelica has compound leaves (leaflets in pairs along a central stem) with the leaf stem inflated where it meets the main stem so that it catches rain water, valerian has smooth bright green leaves.