What are these roses?

[butteriesplease]

These are in my dad's garden - I'd like to get the same in memory of mum. They are both scented and growing on a wall. Or how do I take a cutting? Could I then grow it as a shrub or bush?

Difficult to tell exactly which rose they are - if you look up any company selling roses you will see what i mean!! To take cuttings choose a stem which doesnt have any flowers on it and cut about 6” off just above a leaf joint. Take all the leaves off except 2/3 at the top, dip into rooting hormone powder (from a garden centre) and insert into some compost in a smallish plant pot, at the edge of the pot. I suggest you do a few of each rose and put them all round the edge of the pot - use a different pot for each rose and label it so you know one is pink and the other yellow. Then keep compost damp, keep outside. You will have to be patient and dont disturb them until next year. They may not all make it but next spring take a look and they should have developed roots. Pot each one up separately at this point and, voila, you have a very small rose plant. They wont be big enough too flower for probably 2/3 years. Good lluck.

Thank you! I'll take cuttings in that case.

Roses are quite easy to dig up and transplant if that is an option.

Can't really dig up as are pretty big and on a wall - wouldn't fit in car either! I'll have a look for any baby off shoots tho - do roses do that?

I have never been successful with Rose cuttings. If you do a new post asking how to do it I think you will get help. There is a rose expert on here, but I cannot remember her name. Alternatively, if you email the picture to David Austin Roses, The Royal National Rose Society or Peter Beale Roses, one of them might be able to help. I found David Austin very kind and sympathetic when looking for a memorial Rose for my late Dad.

Some roses are grafted onto rootstock that are a different variety - so digging up a sucker might not work.

I find the best way of taking cuttings is exactly as described, but put them into a clay pot, with a sand and compost mix [50/50] as the lack of nutrients encourages the roots to form quicker.

Or if you want the rose quicker, take photos of the flowers, the leaves, the stem from different directions, and send to David Austin and they are usually quite good at working out the variety.

for digging up. if you can wait till october.
cut the plant right down to knee height and then dig it out.

Is the yellow one golden memories?
If they’ve been in the garden for a while you might be able to work out what they are, perhaps older books from the library if not online. Rose producers bring out new ones regularly nowadays but they didn’t used to so much so you might recognise them from pics and a description.

Could the yellow rose be Laura Ford? Lovely scented, early to flower and repeat flowering. Described as a short climber or pillar rose doesn't exceed around 8ft tall.

Could the pinky / salmon rose be Albertine? Flowers once but is glorious and scented, as much a rambler as a climber. A traditional old English rose.

thanks all for the responses, I'll look up the suggestions of rose identities. Not sure if would manage rose cuttings, but might try that too. The roses have been there for ages - probably at least 20 years, and expect that the yellow one is quite an old variety as my grandad used to show yellow roses, so it could be one of his 'stars'.

both have beautiful scents, not sure if they repeat flower. Will investigate!

so, just in case anyone is interested (!) I tried cuttings, but they are already wilting, so think not worked.

However, I asked David Austin for help, thanks to a pp.

and they suggested that the roses might be Compassion and Windrush. also I then saw Fighting Temeraire (great name!) which is also similar.

so I have some roses to order! Thank-you all for your help. Compassion seems like a suitable choice as a rose in memory of Mum.

Lovely that you've found the right rose and so aptly named.

we've got a few new roses in memory of my dad.
One is a lovely bright crimson called 'spirit in the sky' it's beautiful
The other is called 'remember me' which is lovely orange colour.
The yellow one in your picture looks like a rose I have called 'golden showers'