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Complete novice, dahlias, winter... help!

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SconNotScone · 27/04/2018 21:16

Hi all, I have come into some dahlia tubers from a friend. We moved fairly recently, and whilst I'm trying not to touch the garden too much until next year (in order to see what comes up), there are a few dying shrubs which I really don't like, and plan to dig up, will then plant the dahlias there.

I am a complete garden novice, but have done some reading up, and understand the "digging up in winter, vs. leaving in the ground" situation with dahlias in the winter.

Really, my question is what do I do with the bed once the dahlias are gone, to maintain at least a little bit of interest over winter? I know it can be difficult to keep some interest during the winter months, but I would rather not have a completely empty bed! Any suggestions please? And please do bear in mind you're talking to a real beginner!

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Cary2012 · 27/04/2018 22:28

Do you want flowers or shrubs?
One idea is to go to your local garden centre early autumn and buy a few small perennial shrubs. Or you could plant some winter heather after your dahlias have finished?
Or, plant some crocus, snowdrops (bulbs) and hellabores in the autumn.
My hellabores were in flower January, and are still going strong, and they self seed too.

Cantspell2 · 28/04/2018 02:03

When you lift the dahlia tubers in autumn plant a few dafs and tulips in their space

Whyarealltheusernamestaken · 28/04/2018 02:14

If you want something low maintenance but good for wildlife put in some lavender. Look nice and great for bees but need little tlc

SconNotScone · 28/04/2018 07:42

Thank you for the advice so far! I like the idea of having lots of flowers in that part of the garden, as there are lots of shrubs in other places.

So in autumn, I can take up the dahlia tubers and put in some bulbs (crocus, snowdrop, ?? hyacinth ??, tulips), and just have bare ground whilst waiting for them to appear.

Hellebores are pretty, but I know nothing about them. Do you get them as established plants, not grow from seed? Do they remain year-round, just obviously not flowering the whole time? If so, what’s best come late spring, when i’d want the dahlia back in, just plant them around the hellebore?

Sorry for all the questions, seriously this is all so new to me!

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Fridasfridgefreezer · 28/04/2018 07:48

I leave my dahlias in the found over winter (London) and they’re always returned. I scatter giant poppy seeds in that area and they are appearing now (bit late because of the cold) and will grow and flower before the Dahlia.

Snowdr0p · 30/04/2018 09:17

I think it would be best to buy hellebores as plants, and when they're flowering so you can see exactly what colour the flowers are like. Unfortunately all that would have happened during winter when the garden centres seem to sell most of their hellebores.

I do like mine, I have two kinds (Helleborus argutifolius and Helleborus x sternii) and I can see how people can be addicted to buying different varieties. They're evergreen and the only care is to cut off old/spotty leaves, mostly in December, and to cut the flowering stems as close as possible to the ground once the flowers are spent (faded colour and seeds starting in the centre). This will prevent them self sowing, unless you have a large area you want them to populate I guess, and keep the original plant from spending energy on the seeds. The argutifolius needed some stakes for support.

Don't leave spotty leaves on the ground, they may infect the rest of the plant. Sounds alarming but they're pretty much trouble free plants overall.

Not sure about combining hellebores and dahlias. Are their flower colours a bit 'cool' vs 'hot' respectively? But they could be great together.

JT05 · 30/04/2018 09:59

You might get some Hellebores in the reduced section of garden centres. Although they are mostly over and the flowers faded you could stock them up for next year.
Over the summer the leaves are a glossy green, so should be ok amongst the dahlias. The leaves tend to go ‘off’ in the Autumn, but you can cut them off as the flowering stems rise from the base, as do the next year’s leaves.

Cary2012 · 30/04/2018 18:49

I love my hellabores but I found out yesterday that the are extremely toxic to cats. I have three (cats that is) and am now pondering as to what to do. They rarely go in the 'woodland' end bit where the hellabores look lovely in the dappled shade, and they wouldn't I'm sure eat any bit of them. But I think for piece of mind I may have to rip them up. arrrgh!

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