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Allotment/Veg patch thread 11 'We bid farewell to rainbow leaves but will keep plotting along'

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bookbook · 08/09/2017 20:17

Well, nights are drawing in, leaves are starting to turn, harvesting carrying on
What a summer it has been!
Join in with the ups and downs of growing our own into autumn.
Last thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/gardening/2951768-Allotment-Veg-Patch-Thread-10-Plotmenters-busy-into-summer-and-loving-James-Wong?msgid=71770088HERE

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tizwozliz · 11/12/2017 18:54

My sprouts are looking beautiful popping up out the snow Smile

Nothing much else going on, i've been trying in vain to get last years poinsettia to turn red but that's my only plant based activity at the moment!

Cedar03 · 15/12/2017 08:38

No snow here - much to DD's disappointment! But hard frosts and it poured with rain last Sunday which was my only spare time for going to the allotment. So nothing much going on here.
Need to get my borlotti beans out of the loft where they have been drying and use them in a soup.
Tizwozliz my mum managed to get her poinsettia to bloom again by putting in a black plastic bag to block out the light for a while. But I think it's hard to do it at this time of the year because they would naturally be dormant.

bookbook · 15/12/2017 09:13

I've don't try to get things ready for Christmas - I have done hyacinths in the past with no success., and remember my DF wrestling with Christmas Cacti !
It has been horrible weather here - really hard frosts every day.
Yesterday it warmed up a bit, so I managed to get stuff done in the morning. I tidied and got rid of a couple of buckets of weeds as the green waste trailer turned up , dug up a lot of sad celeriac and chucked those. Then I started digging up some autumn raspberries that are well past their best, so I could put them on the trailer too. They are all going apart from one ( amazingly I remembered to tie a coloured tie around , so I could find it !)
But my broad beans have gone - went to check on them , to find a row of very neat holes , so will have to sow in pots in the greenhouse now , pesky mice I suspect.
It was good to get out in the fresh air, and I was gifted a red cabbage too :).

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UnaOfStormhold · 15/12/2017 16:06

I've been eating physalis from the garden - there's something very nice about being able to pick fruit in December! Haven't seen any sign of broad beans but the garlic and onions are coming up nicely. Neither the narcissi or amaryllis inside are looking ready to flower in 10 days time but should look lovely in January!

Cathpot · 15/12/2017 19:46

Hello everyone, been trying to catch up- you are amazing still harvesting now. I’ve got some chard still alive and triffid like PSB with no sign of actual sprouting. Just fallen into my holiday today and I plan to try and do some more clearing up generally outside. Planted a replacement plum tree with more hope than expectation - my death ratio for baby plum trees is 50/50 at the moment. Having the chickens has meant I’ve been outside far more than normal winters - cleared lots of undergrowth in various places and they follow me burbling away to get the insects which is very pleasing. Did someone say the planting garlic window is possibly still open?? Not tried it before- no snow, very mild end of the country.

bookbook · 16/12/2017 16:31

Afternoon!
Hello Cath :) . I have PSB not due until well into the New Year, and yes, its a bit triffid like. The first varieties are going over now. Poor plum tree. - was that the one in a bucket? Re garlic - I think it depends - it needs to have sprouted before the hard winter frosts come along I think, but if you have some to plant, why not try ?
It is still very icy here, but popped up to harvest, DH came and while I picked stuff, he went round and blocked off all the possible rabbit entrances ( I have had a few leek tops nibbled ...) . The forecast is looking like rain tomorrow . So I picked enough for a couple of days - nibbled leeks, sprouts and a savoy. Yep Cath - this is when it pays off ( along with all the stuff in the freezer, and the winter squashes :) )

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Cathpot · 16/12/2017 16:46

Hi book- bucket plum tree actually survived , I’ve had two others die in completely different areas of the garden. We don’t tend to get hard frost so I’ll try the garlic and see what happens.

clarabellski · 18/12/2017 14:51

Hi everyone

I just wanted to pop onto the thread to wish everyone season's greetings!

We've had some pretty hard frosts in our neck of the woods the past few weeks (down to -7) but so far our overwintering plants under fleece appear to have survived.

We are still harvesting leeks, kale, spinach and celeriac and have some frozen fruit & veg from this summer in our freezer. We ate our last homegrown tomato on 6 December which I thought was quite impressive (all of the green tomatoes we cleared out of the greenhouse in October turned red eventually on our kitchen windowsill!).

Sorry about your beans book -what a pain!

bookbook · 19/12/2017 09:10

Morning
clara - impressive on the tomatoes!
well, another heavy frost here , so nothing doing at the moment. Hoping that it clears up enough for me to go and sow broad beans in pots in the greenhouse . It is supposed to warm up this week , fingers crossed

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bookbook · 22/12/2017 12:33

Afternoon!
well, it has been decidedly murky here the last few days - mist/fog and dank.
I sowed some broad beans in pots in the greenhouse yesterday. This morning I spent an hour at the plot weeding - it was rather claggy . Picked some kale and dug some leeks, and a very sorry little celeriac . I also wanted to check the sprouts and broccoli are okay for picking on Sunday morning .
Happy Christmas , and a peaceful, productive New Year everyone Xmas Smile

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tizwozliz · 24/12/2017 14:52

Just pulled an entire stalk of sprouts ready for Christmas dinner. Decided that for 2018 I'd like to have at least 3 home grown vegetables on the table - thinking carrots and parsnips and maybe potatoes going to be the easiest to do.

bookbook · 28/12/2017 15:48

Afternoon !
Hope everyone is well.
Actually managed to pop to the plot this morning - first time for what seems like days. Pretty cold, and the top was a bit solid, but I managed an hour digging up old autumn raspberry canes. It was lovely, no wind, and lovely sunshine.
Due snow tomorrow though ...

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chockaholic72 · 05/01/2018 18:56

Just wanted to say hello - I'm in Manchester and we've just been given a massive plot next door to where I work as it was too big (and too full of the previous tenant's rubbish) for anyone else to want it. We've spent the last few weekends filling skips (yes, he left that much crap), and we're going to have a crack at making raised beds from pallets tomorrow.

Challenges - I think the main one is keeping people engaged. We originally had about ten people interested, but so far only four of us have turned up in the rain and the cold to clear the plot - I suspect we may have a lot of fair weather gardeners! We also need to work out some way of working together, as there's are a couple making their own decisions rather than working as more of a co-operative, although we have a couple of ladies coming from a community garden group next week, so hopefully they will be able to advise how to do this!

On the plus side, someone has given us a shed, if we dismantle, move and re-erect it, and we made £120 from a bake sale before Christmas that we can put towards tools, timber, seeds and plants. We've also got a greenhouse, made of wood and with acrylic panes, although no door, that we're hoping to rescue. We can't wait to get planting!

Wh0KnowsWhereTheT1meG0es · 05/01/2018 19:30

Welcome Chocka, that sounds like a great opportunity but definitely a good idea to get some sort of system established for how to run it all. Are all the other people colleagues of yours?

The thread tends to go a bit quiet in winter but picks up speed over the next few weeks as we head towards spring.

I have not been up to my plot for about 3 weeks, with school holidays, Christmas, having a stinking cold. Hoping to crack on from next week though.

bookbook · 05/01/2018 19:39

hello and Happy New Year to everyone.
Welcome Chockaholic ! You will find very quickly who is committed and who isn't , but a plan of work is a good start :). You have to be a true stalwart to work in this weather. Whereabouts are you ?-North/South/East/West
Yes, the weather has been dreadful ,in between a lot of family visiting . so it has just been a quick run in to harvest for me .
Sunday will be my first trip to the plot since last week, just a bit more work to finish before we leave for our holidays in 2 weeks time-. We have an enormous jostaberry to prune back hard, and some new weed membrane to lay around the gooseberries .

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Frouby · 06/01/2018 10:25

Hello all and a happy new year to you.

Dropped off this thread as had nothing to report. Weather been vile here, we had a week away and then christmas and everything else so we haven't been up for weeks.

I planted my 18 rasperry canes out at the end of November and we finally got rid of the bonfire. And the only other thing in is a strawberry bed that may or may not have survived.

Nipped in poundland yesterday and they had all sorts of fruit canes for £1. Bought 4 blueberry canes so need to find somewhere for them to go. And 2 big bags of red onion sets too. Will they store ok until it's time to plant them out?

So now it's all about prep ready for spring. I want to manure all my beds, and start turning the areas we covered with weed membrane last year when we took it on. Am hoping I can still get to the really well rotted stuff on our muck heap but am not sure if it's been covered with fresher stuff now so need to check that out.

Am getting excited for a new season. And we get married in May so am hoping lots of graft shifts a few of my post Christmas lbs!

UnaOfStormhold · 06/01/2018 12:00

Happy new year, happy new gardening! Terrible temptation keeps arriving on my doorstep in the form of garden catalogues. Have already started buying things for the new season - I may have acquired another chilean guava (last year's berries were really delicious!) and another fruit tree (a pluot). Oh, and a replacement kiwiberry and a gooseberry as I seem to have managed to kill the ones I put in last year. The other fruit trees and bushes I planted seem to be doing well so I'm hoping for a good crop this year. In the raised beds I have leeks, pak choi, chard, kale and spinach to pick and the garlic and onions are doing well. My broad beans have finally put in an appearance so I'm hoping they won't get munched too badly.

Meantime I am getting excited about the edible perennials bed I'm planning. Nearly all cleared out now, just one stubborn rose bush/buddleia tangle and a few more lavender bushes to take out, then it needs a good dose of compost digging in before I can start getting plants in. Seeds are all sorted, fingers itching to get growing again!

TheSpottedZebra · 07/01/2018 11:04

Hello hello plotters, and happy 2018!
I used to be a regular on this thread, but life got in the way quite quite a bit last year and my allotmenting rather ground to a halt. I did get some good raspberries though, and had my longest ever tomato year - blight never really took hold -hurrah!

But new year, new resolution so I am right back on it. Oddly, one of the things on my WANT list is... Chilean guava, so Una please tell me more! Where did you get it from, is it easy to grow, are they really really nice, can you propagate them, etc etc?

TheSpottedZebra · 07/01/2018 11:09

I am now off to sort through my seed box and then make make a plan and restock.

Resolution wise:

  • I'm not doing sweetcorn again - I've had 2 crap years of it and I don't have the space to waste.
  • More tomatoes. But will def do Losetto, gardeners Delight, Black Krim, Pineapple and Amish paste again.
  • I need to find a climbing courgette - anyone know any good ones? I did a yellow one last year but it was a failure. I've done tromboncino before and that was very very prolific and good fun, but not so tasty. That will be my fallback.
-More beetroot and turnip. Sucessionally.
  • Maybe a black raspberry?
UnaOfStormhold · 07/01/2018 11:52

Zebra the berries are really delicious - hard to describe but a lovely fresh complex taste, and they fruit late so you're picking them at a time when not much else is available. They seem really easy and unfussy. I just got a second from beechwood trees via ebay, can't remember where the first one came from. Haven't tried propagation though.

I have a nice dark purple raspberry (Glen coe - didn't get many berries as it was the first year but they were tasty.) I was a bit disappointed with the taste of all gold so I'm going to replace two canes with Joan J, which will give me red, yellow and purple.

I'm hoping we're going to be able to put in a greenhouse for this year - tomatoes were blighted and cucumber never really got going outdoors and I'd like to try melons and peppers too.

I was a bit disappointed with tromboncino too - and had only two pumpkins from a vast amount of space so also interested in climbing squash recommendations!

bookbook · 07/01/2018 12:19

Morning!
How lovely to see you Spotted - I hope 2018 is an easier one for you :)
And blow me - I have a Chilean guava which was planted last year - DH chose it as an ornamental in our garden, and I forgot all about it! ( we just bought ours at a local nursery ) Good to hear the tomatoes did well for you last year - I remember the blight affecting you the year before was it?
mmm climbing courgettes - not tried any , and my courgettes were a bit of a disaster this year - they all succumbed to virus. I had a poor butternut harvest , but the crown prince were as reliable as ever - still have plenty in store of those.
Yesterday rained and hailed , and I was busy so today I got down to the plot and have spent a lovely morning there. Cold, frosty but clear blue skies and sun. Did a lot of sorting, digging and weeding. Nearly there , hopefully all done before I go away in two weeks time.
I picked sprouts and the last few beetroot

Una - the greenhouse really does help , no doubting when it comes to tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers . Here in Yorkshire , I don't think they get enough warmth otherwise - I even managed aubergines this last year

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chockaholic72 · 07/01/2018 14:01

Went down to our work plot this morning with my colleague H, and made a raised bed from some decking the previous tenant had left! The plot is already laid out well but most of the existing raised beds are completely rotten.it made me realise how big it is - we measured a bed and it was 3m x 1.5m, and we have six, plus fruit beds round the side.

So, one down, five to go. Hard work, as there is no electricity on site so everything had to be hand-sawn, but it looked good. Another plot holder gave us a big stack of seeds that I need to go through this afternoon, and another offered us six eggs for a quid :-)

Cedar03 · 07/01/2018 15:36

Happy New Year everyone!

chockaholic welcome to the thread. Sounds like you are making good progress there. I think it must be a challenge to work with others on a community plot - making sure that decisions are made collectively could be tricky. My parents share a second plot with some other allotmenters but it seems to me that they just choose what they fancy for their part of it rather than actually work together.

We had our first trip today to the plot since I don't know when. The weather has been rubbish for gardening recently but on the plus side we do need the rain here in the south east as they're already talking about a drought for next summer! Plot looked OK and nothing had blown away in the wind so that's a plus. Smile

Spotted Zebra spotted you on a couple of other threads and hoped you'd be back! We've given up on sweetcorn as the mice get into it. Black raspberry sounds interesting. I've got new strawberry plants on order which should arrive soon.

My new year's resolution ought to be to plan more but I think I shall end up making it up as I go along as usual!

UnaOfStormhold · 08/01/2018 08:09

I have gone slightly mad and have a spreadsheet with pages for seed sowing, flower succesion/colour, crop rotation and plant buying. In practice I'll probably just wing it as usual...

elephantoverthehill · 08/01/2018 20:26

Belated Happy New Year to you all. I had 'dropped off' the thread again. I got to the plot yesterday, lovely bright day but very cold. I put down some more black polythene and re did that had been blown a bit. My perpetual spinach is still going, it is in quite a sheltered part of the plot and so hasn't been touched by the frost, although we have only had about 2 heavyish ones this year. Is it worth fleecing it to keep it going next year, or just start again in the spring?