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Allotment/Veg Patch -Thread 8 - Its spring - time to get busy!

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bookbook · 20/03/2017 11:00

Thought I had better get a new thread ready to roll!
It has been a long, soggy winter , but the clocks go back soon, we may see the sun , so it will be all go, go ,go Grin
Everyone welcome, join us the celebrate and commiserate on the joys of vegetables
previous thread HERE

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Anonymous1112 · 04/04/2017 19:41

I popped down the plot tonight to water my new strawberries and raspberries (and a cheeky peony I'm trying to grow for a wedding bouquet next year). Neighbour has just put turf down on a good chunk and I'm thinking what a lovely idea. Im hoping to buy a storage bench this month (no shed) and lovely turf under my feet sounds quite nice 😀

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 04/04/2017 19:59

Thanks clara and OP, might try Wilkos then, cheapness is key here. Think I've been over enthusiastic with 10 potato planters, maybe I'll only utilise 4 of them 😀. Does anyone grow anything else in them?

Cathpot · 04/04/2017 20:04

Ok- I must know what an asprin shower is and why??!

Have neglected the greenhouse due to an all consuming plan to do up the old summerhouse as a den for the girls. It would be fair to say it has completely spiralled out of control and my days are currently based around gold spray and stick on bling. I finally popped in to see the seedlings and my corgettes were all drama drama collapsing. I have to pot them up tomorrow but I need both pots and yet more compost. I need to ask you lot about radishes - mine have come up (first time growing them) but seem very tightly packed. Do I need to thin them?

RedBugMug · 04/04/2017 20:07

aspirin shower for tomatos and other geeky stuff

goodenoughal · 04/04/2017 20:09

I popped into the garden today to eat my lunch in the sun, and while I was there got to see the water system my allotment neighbour has rigged up for me, diverting rainwater from his big shed to a water butt in my garden. He just offered to do this, for nothing, spending about a day getting it in place, including a level base for the butt. It is such an extraordinarily kind gesture.

He and his wife have now also offered to help me take all the rubbish I've cleared to the tip in their trailer, so that I don't need to spend money on a skip. That will be at least 4 or 5 trips to the tip, a day's work probably, and not much fun.

I am blown away by their kindness. These are people I met four months ago, whose only interest in all of this is supporting me getting to grips with my challenging plot.

On a more prosaic note, I started to confront the Japanese knotweed, clearing all the old stems to burn, and to get a sense of the scale of the problem. It's not as bad as I thought, probably only 5 or 6 big crowns, and a few rogue stems, over an area about 5 sq ft. Next I need to get into a knotweed removal person to try to work out the best plan.

Meanwhile, the dreaded mares' tail is popping all over the place 😱 but less in the beds that I've tried to clear than I expected. I just have to acknowledge it's going to a long-term job.

elephantoverthehill · 04/04/2017 20:16

I've had a bit of a disaster Sad. I've been laid up since Sunday but am now on the road to recovery and managed to get out the back door today. My sweet peas have singed in the mini greenhouse, I think they may recover but beasties have been merrily chomping on my seedlings. I have started my revenge and have a salt bath getting fuller each hour as I hunt down the slugs and snails. I feel quite evil. DS is coming back from uni on Thursday, he has become vegetarian, fair play, but do I have to hide my murderous intentions? How do vegetarians protect their crops? Or is it live and let live?

rosetintedspectacles · 04/04/2017 21:35

Rookie gardener joys: I'm seeing seeds sprout for the first time ever! My lettuce seeds are germinating (in wall planters), and my seed potatoes are already poking tiny green leaves up through the soil after I planted them on Sunday!

Also this weekend managed to clear half a large bed ready to do runner beans and nasturtiums next month (need to sow the beans into pots soon and get them going) and have done a little wall planter of rocket seeds.

Anyone know if I need to take the flowers off an outdoor rosemary plant? I've been advised to or else it'll die apparently(?!) but the bees are loving the flowers and I feel guilty taking them away!!

Oh, anyone know if there's ANYTHING edible I can grow in a bed that's almost 100% shady? There's nothing, is there?

elephantoverthehill · 04/04/2017 21:41

Rose I have two very large rosemary bushes in very poor soil and space. One is a weeping one and one growing into hedge. I have never done anything to them except occasionally hack the hedge type one so we can get down the narrow path. Both were planted as tiny seedlings. so my advice would be to leave well alone.

MikeUniformMike · 04/04/2017 21:43

I grow stuff in potato planters. If they are too tall for, say, salads, fold the sides down. Also, you could put any spare planters aside for next year.
Wilko seeds are pretty good IMO.
Leave the rosemary flowers on for the bees. Bees here love spring onion flowers so I usually let a few go to seed..

GnomeDePlume · 04/04/2017 21:48

Clara that is a lovely way to remember your DH's Grandfather

Cathpot · 04/04/2017 23:54

Redbugmug- thanks! I'd not heard of that and I will try it- whilst feeling bad for making my tomatoes feel stressed.

bookbook · 05/04/2017 09:01

Morning!
Its sunny, so I think I am going to factor in a trip to the plot this morning, before it disappears :)
Anon - how many potatoes ? I got re - gifted a potato growing kit thing a few years ago - 3 potatoes in each pot. I now use the pots for anything really- they hold such a lot of compost/soil. I did DGS's sunflowers last year, so there was enough depth to put canes in to stake them. I guess they would be big enough to pop in almost anything .
goodenough - lovely neighbour! I suspect he is encouraging you, as he can see all the work you are doing- it will benefit him not to have that mess next to him :)
rose - I have never done anything to my rosemary - had them for years.

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VilootShesCute · 05/04/2017 10:32

I've decided to plant my carrots in containers this year after the lot (and every one of my lovely sweetcorn) being destroyed by badgers last year at my plot. Which soil specifically should I use in the containers?

clarabellski · 05/04/2017 10:33

thick we use potato planters for all sorts of planting! Much lighter than a pot so easy to move around. We're going to try tomatoes in them this year to get a deeper root system going.

cath I thin radishes to around 7cm apart. They do get quite bushy above ground so need about the space as baby beets.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 05/04/2017 10:35

Great, thank you. Will treat them as (tiny) portable flower beds!

Cathpot · 05/04/2017 10:51

clara thanks I will do that today- can you eat the leaves of the thinnings??

bookbook · 05/04/2017 10:55

Morning Cath - missed your post about radishes from yesterday.
Hope the courgettes are okay ( I haven't even sown mine yet!)
Yes, you can eat radish leaves.:)
Viloot - best carrots I ever saw was on Gardeners World a few years ago - an old allotment hand grew them in a big tub stood on an old table - carrot root fly don't fly that high !

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GrouchyKiwi · 05/04/2017 13:14

rose Here's a blog about vegetables that like shade: growagoodlife.com/vegetables-that-grow-in-shade/

Beautiful garden, clara, and what a lovely way to remember your DH's grandfather.

My garden is all ready for planting now, so I'm hoping to get some seeds done tomorrow, as well as a good soaking with nematodes. I now have 6 broad bean plants poking their little heads above the soil, but still no sign of peas coming up.

I need to plant some trees to lessen the effect of the wind on the garden. Does anyone know which (small) trees cope well with strong winds?

bookbook · 05/04/2017 16:08

Afternoon!
well I went and harvested leeks, then dug the first trench ready for planting potatoes. To save my back, I am planting 1 row tomorrow, and digging trench 2 , then repeating the next day. Well, thats the plan...
Grouchy -broad beans up. yay! Do you actually want trees, or would a hedge do the work . I seem to think you would like a lot of nature, so maybe some native hedging may work - think hawthorn, alder, maple ,
have you looked at the RHS Windbreak advice

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GrouchyKiwi · 05/04/2017 16:23

Thanks for that link, books. We've already got a native hedge put in, so I guess will just need to wait for that to get tall enough to help! I'm thinking about putting in a crab apple, and maybe a couple of viburnums or similar. The problem is that the winds come up over a little hill and then funnel between our house and garage. The hedge should do some to stop this, once grown. A couple of trees/shrubs before the gap between the house and garage might be the thing.

Maybe I need to make a new post with photos...

Anonymous1112 · 05/04/2017 18:17

Afternoon all, looks like everyone has been busy.

I've been in my little garden tonight digging up a dead clematis to put a gorgeous climbing David Austin rose in its place. Flipping clematis isn't dead, a new shoot was on its way up from below the ground (it's been over a year). I'm going to pot it up whilst it recovers from my clumsy digging up and take it to the allotment to grow up one of those pretty arch things as my plot entrance 😀

GrouchyKiwi · 05/04/2017 18:43

I meant to say thanks for the hydrangea optimism. I'll cross my fingers. And WhoKnows I'm glad your lovely clematis is coming back to life.

Have just been out and applied my nematodes to the garden. Hopefully they will keep those nasty slugs at bay.

1112 Score on the not-dead clematis!`

GinAndOnIt · 05/04/2017 18:57

I can't seem to find any energy this week! I've done hardly anything in the garden. I have, however, written up a plan of what will be planted where, so I can remember next year to change it round. I feel like I've done something in the garden when really I've barely moved! I've got some potatoes that need to go in, and some broad beans...

Anonymous1112 · 05/04/2017 19:26

Grouchy How effective do you find the nemotodes? Better than beer traps?

Gin The key is in the planning, its easy to rush in and plant stuff (I have in the past) but it's better to know what your doing - well done on your effort 😀

timtam23 · 05/04/2017 19:47

I went to the plot yesterday. To my surprise DS1 wanted to come too (he doesn't usually show any interest). We planted two California poppies and he helped me to salvage a very small pallet which, when turned on its end & wedged between compost bins, makes a fantastic holder for all of my long canes. We watered everything & DS helped to pick out some bits of broken glass (my plot used to be in the waste area where all the broken stuff was dumped). He also loved finding beetles and spiders so i may be able to tempt him up there a bit more often.

At home my broad beans are germinating nicely in their loo roll pots. Hopefully they will be hardening off soon for planting out, as i need to get sweetcorn started indoors next.

And I've joined a local online plant swap group, so far I've managed to give away lots of things without taking on any new plants (we really don't have room!)

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