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Cornish Palm Trees

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PigletJohn · 17/09/2015 14:48

I am not in Cornwall but would like to try growing some in the garden. Where can you get them? What happens if it snows?

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shovetheholly · 17/09/2015 15:14

PIGLETJOHN!

We are in the presence of a Mumsnet legend!

The plant you're talking about - Cordyline australis - is not a true palm but instead a native of New Zealand, which helps to explain its ability to survive some frost.

However, it's not proof against the worst winters, especially when it's getting established. So if you're in a relatively mild area or a big city with a warm microclimate, you can risk shoving it in the soil and forgetting about it. Hence their proliferation in Cornwall! If, however, you are in the northern wastes as I am, you will almost certainly need to think about giving it a bit of protection in the worst weather. One way of doing this is to grow it in a pot (which can be bubble wrapped and wheeled to safety in a sheltered place). However, bear in mind that this will tend to limit the height of the plant and will involve you in buying progressively bigger pots, which can be an expensive habit.

Alternatively, you could put it in the soil, but then you will need to protect it in situ, and this means that it will look pretty rotten for a few months a year. You're basically trying to avoid two things: wind damage to those strappy leaves and water penetration which you can do by tying them up and protecting the growing point from rot. You might need to wrap the trunk with fleece too. A good depth of mulch on the soil also helps roots.

You can buy small plants very inexpensively all over the place - a 5 litre one will set you back £10-15. Larger ones that are already growing a trunk tend to be considerably more expensive: you can pay hundreds, and then it is a BIG risk losing them in the weather.

I am tempted to suggest that unless you're in central London or the South West, there are other palms that are very much hardier that may give you a similar effect without the hassle. Many of them are every bit as big and beautiful as the cordyline. There is a list on this page which also gives their hardiness (some of these really are tough buggers):

www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=609

PigletJohn · 17/09/2015 16:21

My yuccas grow to 20 feet, is that a good sign?

I want one with a trunk like a coconut or date palm, not a fan.

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shovetheholly · 17/09/2015 16:48

I think I know what you mean - you want something that looks big and properly exotic, which grows out of a trunk at the top. I think whatever you choose, unless you're willing to shell out £££ initially (which might not be the best use of your cash), it'll probably start out looking more compact and gradually grow upwards. Patience will be required (I am terrible at the waiting).

What about the chusan palm? Give it a few years and it'll grow a trunk and tolerate the British winter down to -10 to -15, more if it's in a nice sheltered place. A date palm would give you a trunk too - and that's hardy down to -8.

I quite like the jelly palm, too. It's sort of a fun looking plant, if you know what I mean. And it looks tremendously exotic but is quite tough really.

Yuccas are interesting, aren't they? I'm impressed with your 20 footers. I don't know much about them, but I do know that they can vary in their hardiness - many are awesomely tough in the cold taking temperatures well into the -20s, some less so. So maybe not so good as a guide! Now if you can grow agaves outside over winter without rot setting in, that's a different matter Wink.

All that said, I reckon it's always worth giving these things a go. If you have you heart set on a cordyline, then get a cheap one and give it a try!

PigletJohn · 17/09/2015 17:00

I found someone selling a few along the coast from me, so will try a couple.

Thanks

I cut the biggest Yuccas down and gave away logs on freegle, as they grow very easily here. I just poke them in the ground and they grow. I think the parent was an M&S houseplant.

Snow here is rare

Cornish Palm Trees
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shovetheholly · 17/09/2015 17:06

Oh, I am jealous of your good weather! Envy I have the perfect solution - DO ALL OF THEM!! Then if the cordylines fail, you still have palms growing up!

(This is generally my solution to any gardening dilemma: buy everything! I have to say that my DH is less enthusiastic about it as a methodology than I am! But he reverts to the same way of being in a beer festival, so it balances out really)

I feel positively wintry looking at that picture. Isn't it amazing how snow picks out the shapes of the different leaves? It's like a grey-and-white world of texture. Beautiful.

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