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Does anyone do any Guerrilla Gardening?

128 replies

Methe · 05/07/2015 21:19

I've just been for a walk and littered my neighbourhood with aquilegia seeds from the plants in my garden - not people's gardens but the verges and any other unadorned or neglected space. I'm also planning to 'adopt' a verge in my street to plant some flowers as I've run out of space in the garden.

has anyone else done anything like this? I wonder how long it'd take to notice a difference if I just threw all my collected seeds about the place.

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ThatBloodyWoman · 08/07/2015 21:22

Ha! Me too, Sweet !

Methe · 08/07/2015 21:22

Bolleaux sorry I missed your post earlier on. Thank you for the list. There's some lovely plants on there! I drive on the M5/M6 every day to get to work so spend a Looooong time in traffic. I could fire some seed balls on to the verges with a catapult fairly easily Grin

hesterton that sounds brilliant! There are so many unused areas round here that could be used for something like that. The council, in their wisdom, fenced all the green bits off with horrid metal fencing to stop children playing on them. They cut it periodically but it's such a waste of land and it looks so bloody boring!

ppeat I might retire to France as an Opium Grower Grin

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totallybewildered · 08/07/2015 22:38

Well I'd much rather look at poppies and daisies than a bit of scrubland Why is it all about what you'd rather look at, rather than what other people would rather look at, and what wildlife would rather live in?

alicemalice · 09/07/2015 08:37

Are you really trying to tell me most people would rather look at scrubland?

ppeatfruit · 09/07/2015 09:04

This is a bit of a strange argument because scrubland has loads of flowers\wild plants on it, that's what makes it wild land (there are very few plants that have no flowers, some might be very small but usually big enough to attract the wild life insects fgs.).

Also Bewildered it seems that to keep the land 'scrub' it needs human intervention of some type, even if it's just grazing animals on it.

Methe Ssssssh Grin

ThatBloodyWoman · 09/07/2015 09:15

I have heard recently that its a good idea to use local seed,and only from native plants.However,as an example,while the spanish bluebell invasion may be due to discarded bulbs,it may just be as a result of pollinating insects.I'm not sure what the definitive answer is.

Our lanes are full of plum pudding,cow parsley and dog rose.This year I noticed masses of field poppies.

It beats MacDonalds wrappers and dog shit.

ppeatfruit · 09/07/2015 09:33

Exactly ThatbloodyWoman As I said upthread, lots birds and wild life drop seeds in their poo too Grin

alicemalice · 09/07/2015 09:51

Also should we be mad at the council for turning spaces into prettier parks? Aren't they also imposing their choices on us?

I think it's just a daft argument to never interfere,we do it all the time.

SugarPlumTree · 09/07/2015 13:15

Maybe then someone could start another thread in Chat or something and ask people from outside the gardening section what they would rather look at?

If lots prefer scrub with no poppies etc and see seed throwing as vandalism those of us who like seeing flowers etc could have a rethink on our views.

shovetheholly · 09/07/2015 16:52

I suspect that people are talking about very different things on this thread, and that this is the root of much of the disagreement.

totallybewildered is arguing against the installation of very managed garden spaces in rich ecosystems, and it is good to recognise that there is a point beyond which this type of planting anywhere becomes very damaging. We don't want Sights of Special Scientific Interest covered with those really bright garden primulas, for instance!

However, that's absolutely not what most of us are advocating. Turning a monoculture grass verge of grass which is mown before it flowers into a veg garden or even a wildflower meadow has benefits to both the community and to wildlife. I would point to the work of Nigel Dunnett, who has done some amazing 'wild' planting schemes that turn what is essentially quite unusable outdoor space into something both more biodiverse and more beautiful than plain grass, which doesn't do much for anyone.

Plants like aquilegia self seed absolutely everywhere of their own accord. I highly doubt those struggling to reduce their populations are the victims of guerilla gardeners - it's a plant that doesn't need much help. Fortunately, it also has an amazing propensity to hybridize which means that you often get an incredibly varied group of plants in your garden from those little seedlings. In mine, a whole range of pinks and mauves and whites have arrived without me having to lift a finger! And that's leaving aside the stunning cultivated varieties that you can buy. If you have wild aquilegias, it's therefore often worth waiting for these to flower so you and the bees can enjoy the many different colours and shapes they produce - you might have something truly surprising in the mix! Then, if you want to keep the population in check, you can cut them down before they set seed. However, if there are any growing around you in the neighbourhood, they will find their way back in! So rooting up any cuttings you don't want throughout the spring and summer is the only real way to get rid, and even this won't be permanent. Nature can be amazingly fecund sometimes.

waves at everyone regular from Berlin

Methe · 10/07/2015 22:01

Shove that's a great post and I absolutely agree with it :)

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Bolshybookworm · 11/07/2015 11:47

There's quite a fine line though between guerrilla gardening and ecological vandalism, which people need to be careful not to cross. Tending the flower beds that your skint council has neglected = great. Brightening up an all grass, council maintained verge = understandable. Flower bombing a motorway verge = a lot trickier- motorway verges often support native species that struggle elsewhere (orchids, cow slips etc), are you sure that what you're planting won't displace them?

A classic example is the moors near me (SSI) where you regularly see patches of daffs or other bulbs that someone has planted because they think the wild habitat needs "prettifying". This is the danger with guerrilla gardening- it's not always done by responsible people with an awareness of the natural environment.

Methe · 11/07/2015 12:57

Here is the verge that prompted my question. I think we can all agree that it's an absolute mess and about as far removed from an sssi as is possible to be Grin

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Bolshybookworm · 11/07/2015 13:43

Definitely! I'd be tempted to look up plants that you know will be good feed plants for butterfly caterpillars. Word of warning though- our local council often sprays strips of ground next to footpaths with weed killer (irritates me no end). You may get loads of lovely plants growing only to see them felled by the over zealous council.

ppeatfruit · 11/07/2015 14:59

Bolshy Agree about over zealous (or any) spraying I hate it with a passion, the verge only needs trimming Methe The heat is also 'browning' the verges naturally.

. They've stopped spraying here in Fr. and the birds are returning I saw a lot of sparrows today , and I haven't seen any for years

totallybewildered · 11/07/2015 18:46

Methe, for goodness sake, leave it be. I'd be so upset and angry to have someone mess up verges like this near me. garden flowers may be YOUR idea of beauty, but they are certainly not mine. I would a thousand times prefer to have the verge left as is. it looks like nothing to you, but it isn't nothing at all. You are just being extremely selfish.

Methe · 11/07/2015 18:50

Oh bugger off.

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totallybewildered · 11/07/2015 18:59

Why, because you don't like my opinion. it sounds to me like it has never even occured to you to consider any one else might have a different view. I consider your actions to be vandalism, plain and simple. Also, possibly illegal.

Methe · 11/07/2015 20:24

No! Because your yapping on is getting repetitive and annoying. The rest of us are trying to have a reasonable adult discussion and you aggressively saying the same thing over and over again is spoiling it rather.

I acknowledge you have a different opinion to me and if you'd been a bit less aggressive in your manner when taking about I expect we could have had an interesting chat and I might well have listened to what you had to say as. It is though you're extremely boring.

We are each entitled to our own opinions. You clearly think your opinion is the right one. I don't agree with you, you don't agree with me. That is absolutely fine. There was no need to be so fucking rude.

The non emergency crime number is 101 btw.

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totallybewildered · 11/07/2015 21:33

It isn't a case of you simply don't agree with me, what you are doing is morally wrong. Quite apart from making the environment hideous.

Methe · 11/07/2015 21:34

You are like a broken record.

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totallybewildered · 11/07/2015 21:37

because I absolutly absolutly HATE what you are doing, and you don't seem to be able to take on board that it is none of your business, and is wrong, even going so far as to photograph the verge and say "I think we can all agree....." No we bloody DON'T all agree with you. You are WRONG, aesthetically, morally, environmentally, and probably legally.

Methe · 11/07/2015 21:45

Well diddums. Cry me a river.

What's your garden like, out of interest? I do wonder what sort of things a person with such impeccable taste and environmental prowess plants in their own garden.

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Oldraver · 11/07/2015 21:54

ppeat

The pretty carnationay poppies....I have cultivated a load this year, they were pink but we also had some lilac ones. My neighbour gave me some seeds but I also liberated a few that were growing in a corner of a piece of green in my street. The council gardeners came and mowed down the lot so now I can try and replace them Grin

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Garlick · 11/07/2015 21:58

Good grief Shock I thought the gardening board was all lovely and mutually supportive!

Grin Naively optimistic, that's me.

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