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Really challenging spot - baked and dry.

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shovetheholly · 21/04/2015 13:19

My front garden is a challenge.

My house is build on a downwards slope that forms part of an old quarry. The back garden is fine. However, in the front garden (faces due south), your hit rock at two spades' depth. To make matters worse, it's a small space and enclosed on three sides by privet.

Since moving here, I have now dug and double dug it over three times. I have added bag after bag of compost and manure. Despite this, things really struggle to grow in it. To give you an idea, even municipal planting species nearly die in it - a mahonia 'charity' had to be removed, as did a dogwood. Somehow, a spirea japonica struggles on, but the poor thing looks like it's exhausted by summer.

I've just covered half of it with a (very) raised herb bed, which works a lot better. I'm planning to get rid of the privet on the side of my more open-minded neighbours and replace with hornbeam in the autumn.

But what can I plant in the other half that won't look ridiculous against a raised bed? I think a rock garden transitioning suddenly to herbs might look silly?

Suggestions very welcome.

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StaceyAndTracey · 21/04/2015 17:21

Cornus and spirea like water , so they won't be happy

You need to plant things that like your conditions , Mediterranean type plants that like hot and dry conditions , gravel gardens etc

They are easy to find, just google

StaceyAndTracey · 21/04/2015 17:23

www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=500

StaceyAndTracey · 21/04/2015 17:26

Don't think of it as a challenge . Think of it as an oppertunity to grow some beautiful and interesting plants

StaceyAndTracey · 21/04/2015 17:30

Don't but any more plants until you have spent some time reading up on your conditions - there are websites , blogs and books galore .

I've not read this book , but I have her book on damp gardens and it's excellent . Although not that accessible, as she has long lists of plants . But worth £1.99 I reckon

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0711214255/ref=sr_1_1_twi_1_har_olp?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1429633634&sr=1-1&keywords=gravel+garden

TeaForTara · 21/04/2015 18:05

You lucky person, I'm envious! It sounds like the perfect spot for mediterranean plants. Cistus, curry plant, anything else silver-leafed (which I absolutely love but can't grow on my soggy clay.) Alpines would probably also do well there. Oh, but you want shrubs, judging by the plants you've mentioned. Eleagnus, tamarisk, one of the fancier brooms (check acidity requirements?) really, there are lots of things that will flourish there. Some of the bigger salvias. Convolvulus cneorum. Honestly, I'd be in heaven with a hot, dry, shallow bed like that.

TeaForTara · 21/04/2015 18:09

Lots of bulbs like baked dry conditions, too. I'd especially want some of the species tulips for spring colour. Lilies. Camassias. Agapanthus.

aircooled · 21/04/2015 19:50

Iris unguicularis which flowers between Nov and Feb.

Bearleigh · 21/04/2015 20:05

I agree with Tea for Tara. Ther are loads of things that grow in those conditions not many of them typical cottage garden plants true, but some spectacular plants. I too have dry garden envy. I think the Beth Chatto book will be a good starting point. And maybe a visit to her nursery/garden if it's not too far.

Google "RHS dry garden" too - Hyde Hall looks very inspirational, and RHS will give lots of good ideas.

StaceyAndTracey · 21/04/2015 21:47

Not camassias , they like wet .

cairnterrier · 21/04/2015 21:55

Lavenders? Lots of different colours

shovetheholly · 22/04/2015 14:54

I had (another) good dig of the soil yesterday evening.

I think the problem may be that it is quite heavy clay, which tends to then dry and shrink above this quite shallow layer of sandstone. I suspect that the manure/compost I have dug in simply wasn't beefy enough to stop it forming a really, really hard pan (you have to use a mattock to get through it). It doesn't just set- it is absolutely impervious about 3-4 inches down. I did try rosemary and sage, and had to remove them as they went brown.

I am thinking of digging in a lot of grit plus a bit more compost to try to improve the texture, and then I think things will survive a bit better.

I will then try to plant drought plants. It is a bit of a risk because I'm in Sheffield and it rains a very great deal in the winter, but hopefully if I make it fiercely free-draining, that will help?

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PerspicaciaTick · 22/04/2015 14:59

There's any amazing dry garden at RHS Hyde Hall - it looks great all year round.
www.rhs.org.uk/gardens/hyde-hall/garden-highlights/dry-garden
www.rhs.org.uk/gardens/hyde-hall/hyde-hall-blogs/hyde-hall/August-2014/plant-logging-the-dry-garden

shovetheholly · 22/04/2015 15:37

I'm always looking for excuses to visit gardens! Thank you!

(I love Beth Chatto's place too).

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funnyperson · 22/04/2015 19:08

hm yes I thought 'gravel garden' sun loving mediterrarean south african plants like that bird of paradise plant.
beth chatto thought of a dry river bed didnt she

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