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Help me identify this aka is this a weed?

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WafflesandChicken · 06/04/2014 21:00

Help! Never having had a garden to deal with before, I am having trouble telling apart weeds from plants. I found this growing rampantly in the borders completely covering the ground between the tulips and lavender that have managed to survive my 'care'.
Any idea what it is? If it's a weed I want to try dealing with it before everything else gets smothered.
TIA

Help me identify this aka is this a weed?
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MoreBeta · 06/04/2014 21:06

At this time of year weed seedlings grow rampantly and quickly. I have a garden in my house but I only bought it last May so I have the same problem. I don't know what is weed and what is plant.

Stay calm and don't start ripping stuff out, let it grow and then once it become more mature ask someone who is an experienced gardener near you what it is. If it is a weed then you can pull it out.

I generally don't do anything much to a garden excepting cutting grass and basic tidying and pulling out obvious weeds for a whole year until you can see what is growing. I have lived in lots of rental properties and so have long experience of dealing with 'new gardens'.

GrendelsMum · 06/04/2014 21:13

I suspect it's rosebay willowherb, aka fireweed. Does it look like the final pictures below?

www.rosenotes.com/2011/03/tales-of-three-weeds.html

WafflesandChicken · 06/04/2014 21:17

Thanks MoreBeta. We've been here for almost a year but things were a lot more hectic this time last year so can't remember much of what was coming up in the garden then. Those beds were empty except for the lavender in the summer though that's why I'm slightly perplexed at the appearance of these new plants.

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WafflesandChicken · 06/04/2014 21:24

It's darker and more succulent than the fireweed seedling in the picture, but it might be. It's also popped up in a couple of plant pots, which was why I suspected a weed.

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GrendelsMum · 06/04/2014 21:46

I'm pretty sure it's fireweed. Take a hoe to it if you like, or just pull them up individually. Whatever it is, you can't have hundreds of them growing all crammed together, so you would need to thin it out to one or two, even if you wanted it as an ornamental.

However, as I say, I suspect fireweed.

WafflesandChicken · 06/04/2014 22:09

I might get rid of them except a couple just to see what grows. I've read up on fireweed since the last post and I think you are right, the root system and brittle rhizomes fit the description. Thanks!

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Rhubarbgarden · 06/04/2014 22:23

My guess would be Valerianella carinata (European cornsalad). Tiny pale blue flowers. I've got tonnes of it this year, I don't know where it has sprung from as I didn't notice any last year.

Ferguson · 06/04/2014 22:42

I would think it is the smaller willowherb. It will soon have little pink flowers, which quickly turn to seeds - we call them "pink fluffies" - and they need to come out. If you grasp the stem low down, they should pull out easily, especially now soil is moist.

This tells you more: www.mariatrebenherbs.com/?pid=55&sid=72:SMALL-FLOWERED-WILLOW-HERB

GrendelsMum · 07/04/2014 12:59

Could we have a close up photo on the weed? I'm now quite intrigued.

I don't think it's the corn salad, because I've got loads of that too (I eat it) and it's got rounder leaves that don't have any of the purple tinge of fireweed.

hellymelly · 07/04/2014 13:04

I have that in my garden . Tis definitely a weed. Easy to pull out though, unlike the bloody creeping buttercup that has taken over my entire garden.

Gatekeeper · 07/04/2014 14:16

another one for willowherb; just pulled loads of the blighters out yesterday

WafflesandChicken · 07/04/2014 19:13

Sorry just got in from work and seen this. Thanks everyone, will get rid soon as weather allows! Here's a slightly better picture for GrendelsMum. Almost the same as first but better resolution.

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Ferguson · 07/04/2014 19:18

About the only GOOD thing for willowherb is that the caterpillar of elephant hawk moth eats it:
www.saga.co.uk/lifestyle/gardening/wildlife-watch/elephant-hawk-moth-caterpillar.aspx

GrendelsMum · 07/04/2014 19:37

I will immediately invite some elephant hawk moths round to the Grendel Den.

I definitely think its willowherb / fireweed. Fascinating history re the Great Fire of London and the Blitz, and apparently it is edible / drinkable as a tea.

Blackpuddingbertha · 07/04/2014 19:50

Pops up everywhere in my garden too. I always seem to miss a few which then get to flower and seed so I never get rid of it. It is easy to pull up though.

RunDougalRunQuiteFast · 07/04/2014 21:06

We have quite a bit of this in forgotten corners of the garden, and had the most amazing crop of elephant hawk moth caterpillars last year! They are easily 4 inches long, and rather beautiful. (Feeling green emoticon) we gave some to school for their nature table.

Gatekeeper · 08/04/2014 08:57

I am extremely envious of your elephant hawk moths; please pop a stamp on one and send it to me Grin

RunDougalRunQuiteFast · 08/04/2014 09:47

They're big enough to put a stamp on! I hope we get them again this year.

mistlethrush · 08/04/2014 09:51

Definitely willow herb - but not the rosebay which is bigger - still a weed though.

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