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Blooming into Flaming June

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Blackpuddingbertha · 10/05/2013 21:21

Keeping the potting shed party going from the previous Rhubarb Society thread and all threads before it.

Please feel free to join in all gardeners, whether novice, professional or aspiring. Plenty of blackberry gin for all.

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ComeIntoTheGardenMaud · 20/05/2013 21:22

And you asked about my favourite clematis. In a sense, it's always the one I'm about to buy ::optimist:: but I do particularly like Niobe and Wada's Primrose.

onefewernow · 20/05/2013 21:36

Maud, thank you. I was wondering about a large hummocky shrub like a choisya.

The last 24 hrs I have been dreaming about a great big fat bounder, but really I know it is tactical (and I now know, expensive!). And possibly a bit indulgent..

I only have one clematis here so far, but it is wrong, wrong, wrong. It is a montana planed in a crowded raised ribbon border, and I had to cut all the flowering growths off it last autumn, as it was 'walking', in fact galloping, across the communal driveway and over the car which H isnt currently driving. So no flowers this year. I think the last people wanted it tumbling down the wall, but the wall is 3ft high, so it was a very poor choice.

There are heaps of other expensive and lovely shrubs in this border, which wraps around the house, for about 50-60 ft by a metre. They are mostly doing very well, but they were planted very very close together and next year or the year after, if not this, that will be a problem for them . For example, in one square metre, there is a two foot rhododendron, an acer dissectum palmatum (6 ft), and a five ft tree like exochorda, in flower. At the edge of that same metre, or very near, is a robinia, which is growing feet per year.

I know I have to move some, but I cant until I have a bed to put them in. Also, I think the soil in that south and west border is imported and sandy, but the rear garden is East facing and hilly clay.

onefewernow · 20/05/2013 21:40

I used to have a few clematis. Favourites are viticella etoile violette and marie boisselet (both great in fairly deep shade, I found).

And the best ever, which I once had and died, was viticella elvan, which I havnt seen since.

And what is that perfumed one with the tiny flowers? (Just looked it up- it as Triternata Rubromarginata, very vigorous and lovely almondy smell)

HumphreyCobbler · 20/05/2013 21:49

I know we have Polish Spirit, Nelly Moser and etoile violette. We have a fair few others but I have no idea what they are Blush They are planted in with the roses, but last year they did not do much . Only one has been eaten by slugs this year.

Maud, it sounds so lovely. My resolution is to plant more clematis through shrubs, we have just put in three black lace so I may well copy you with the Star of India when they grow a bit bigger.

I had a massive surge of excitement and expectation about the roses this year. This will be the first year the rose walk is mature and I can't wait. DH has worked really hard and all have been pruned and treated appropriately so fingers crossed for a good display. June is my favourite month in the garden.

WynkenBlynkenandNod · 20/05/2013 22:43

I love reading about people's plants. I've been googling all the clematis for inspiration , feel I want more Smile

rhihaf · 21/05/2013 09:20

Wowzers Maud! Your garden sounds like a clematis oasis! Will a clematis (or other climber) grow up/over/through a conifer/leylandi hedge? We have recently butchered pruned it back to a managable height, but it's still pretty ugly, although necessary...

Watched Chelsea on TV last night and I find Alan T most annoying Blush. Anyone else?

onefewernow · 21/05/2013 09:38

Oh he is. But not much more annoying than the "celebrities "!

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud · 21/05/2013 13:11

Just watching my first bit of Chelsea - I've got a lot of catching-up to do!

HumphreyCobbler · 21/05/2013 14:09

I forgot it was on Shock

ComeIntoTheGardenMaud · 21/05/2013 15:15

So did I - I was starting from episode 1 on iPlayer.

WynkenBlynkenandNod · 21/05/2013 16:32

I've stuck tea in the slow cooker so I can catch up on iPlayer. I might possibly be a tiny bit excited about tomorrow

funnyperson · 21/05/2013 20:39

I find Alan T annoying in the same way I find Alan Bennet plays annoying. I can't really put my finger on why- not edgy enough probably. However Alan T gardening programmes are less annoying than listening to his terrible music taste on classic fm.

funnyperson · 21/05/2013 20:39

Have a lovely time tomorrow!

Blackpuddingbertha · 21/05/2013 21:17

I've been watching. Alan annoys me too but I can put up with him for a bit. Enjoy tomorrow Wynken - report back please Smile

Rhihaf - there is a garden down the road which has a Montana growing over and through an enormous conifer. It looks marvellous. I have a feeling it doesn't start immediately at the bottom of it though as it also sprawls across a nearby fence.

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HumphreyCobbler · 21/05/2013 21:39

I found the coverage a bit annoying full stop. We gave up and went round the garden, pointing things out to each other.

"What IS that? Did you plant it?"

"I really like that stone head there, it is in just the right place now"
"I was just thinking we should move it over there"

"You planted that too close to the path."
"Actually you planted those"

etc etc

What garden conversations do you have?

Have a lovely time tomorrow Wynken Envy

Blackpuddingbertha · 21/05/2013 22:06

My garden conversations with DH:

"I'm going to do some work in the garden"
"OK"

"Look, the aquilegia are flowering"
"The what?"

Although he was the one who suggested we watch Chelsea tonight so there is hope.

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steppemum · 21/05/2013 22:54

ooh I am jealous, have had a very busy weekend and week, so keep looking longingly out of the kitchen window at my garden, desperate to do all the jobs I have planned.

dh will be away wed to sat and so I have to paint our bed while he is away, so still no gardening!

I have a question for you.
It is my parents Golden Wedding and they have a party on 23rd June. Mum is a keen gardener and for a gift we are getting them a pair of planters with a golden wedding rose in each one (rose is david austin's Golden 50th anniversary) I am underplanting the roses with gold coloured bedding plants, so they are 'showy' on the day. So I bought the bedding plants today, to plant them on and feed them miracle grow grow them on a bit.

To get the bedding plants to flower on the day, should I cut off all the flower buds until the week before? To encourage it to grow? How long do I give it to grow its flowers?

I don't have the big planters yet, so I will be planting them on into bigger pots and then into the big planter about 2 weeks before the party.

WynkenBlynkenandNod · 21/05/2013 22:54

Thank you, I'll report back Thursday. I've just been catching up on iPlayer and agree Alan is annoying. When I listen to Monty present he's soothing and I feel myself relax whereas Alan has the opposite effect and I end up feeling on edge .

DH does best on garden talk when it's veg related, especially super hot chillis.

steppemum · 21/05/2013 23:24

conversations with dh:

dh - is it ok if I trim the bush in the front garden

me - yes, but it only sprouts from the new wood, don't cut back past the last leaf on the branch, or it won't regrow

dh - hmmm, might be too late

funnyperson · 22/05/2013 03:11

Conversation with DD: 'those plants are amazing mum do you mind if I take that one to college?' (clematis bijou in nice pot)....'what happened to that nice plant I gave you dear?'.......'oh I gave it to the college head gardener and he said he'd plant it..you don't mind do you?' 'do you think you could get one of those swing seats so I can sit in it with my boyfriends?'
Conversation with DS 'you've got a lot of plants mum. can I grow a chilli plant on my windowsill?'.......chilli plant comes back for the long vac thriving and laden with chillis!
Conversation with dad: 'can you see these flowers?' 'yes, put them here where I can see them: the colours are beautiful' Smile

echt · 22/05/2013 10:52

At this point. Ahem. Gavel.

Congtratters to the Australian garden designers who won at Chelsea this year. The bit I liked was reported in the Age (shamefully buried on page 9) where they said: "What next? Let's get drunk!"

I wonder if their sponsor, Trailfinders, who are about to bail out, will do so now.

echt · 22/05/2013 10:57

I am slightly less impressed to discover that they only sell wholesale, so the aspiring Victorian gardener can whistle.

redadmiralsinthegarden · 22/05/2013 21:44

i planted a clematis (first time ever) a couple of weeks ago. it has been happily growing in its spot - but suddenly in the last couple of days it has started to die!! i can't see why. any ideas?

also, in another part of the garden i want to plant a couple of grasses next to ferns/ hydrangea. what would be a good species? i have heard that grasses can be really invasive.

Rhubarbgarden · 22/05/2013 22:06

Hello! Home from France after ten days with DH's extended family and five children under three. I need a holiday to recover... Someone asked me to report back on the garden near Cannes that I mentioned; well it turns out my memory is rather unreliable as it is not actually near Cannes at all, but definitely worth a visit. It's the Domaine du Rayol Mediterranean garden, in a spectacular setting on the edge of the sea. It is a botanical collection of plants from Mediterranean climates around the world, so includes South African, American, Canary Island sections and so on. It was absolutely stunning, all the spring flowers were out in full force because there's been a lot of rain there. Wonderful cafe too, selling home made lavender, violet and rose ice creams. It was the most magical day trip. I made lots of notes on my phone of some of the most interesting/pretty plants, but the list has vanished much to my annoyance so I can't pass them on.

Arrived home to an exploded garden. Cow parsley and nettles rampaging through my borders. Goose grass three feet high on my compost heap. Lawn like a jungle. The orchard, however, is an absolute picture with all the apple blossom.

HumphreyCobbler · 22/05/2013 22:22

Rhubarb, that looks amazing. Definitely going on my list. Coming back to the garden after being away is always interesting. I wouldn't mind a bit of cow parsley though! The apple blossom is stunning here too, it all seems to be out at once. Normally we have much more staggered blossoming time. Am rather worried at the lack of bees. I would expect it to be positively humming but I have only spotted two bumble bees in the whole orchard.

redadmiral, this seems to happen with some of our clematis too. Are there brown spots on the leaves?

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