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How to sort out the disaster that is our "patio"

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duchesse · 17/07/2012 07:55

Will post photo in a mo, but here's the problem:

Our house used to be owned by dog breeders. The whole "back garden" was dog pens, with thick concrete plinths with drains in the middle. The fences around the pens have been removed but the 8 inch thick concrete remains.

Our obvious "patio" area is a raised concrete plinth about 5m x 5m, with a utilitarian drain in the middle. It looks horrible, but its saving grace is that it is level. Nearer to the house is a strip of concrete for drainage (it rains a lot here) sloping away from the house reaching to about 10 cm below the air bricks. There is a step up to the plinth from this area.

Now the plot thickens: we had to have a trench dug through it to sink a pipe last week. The guys who did the trench had to cut through the 8 inches of concrete. They did a lot of bashing with the mini digger spade. They have ended up cracking a lot of the concrete sloping away from the house- it now has large fissures in it. There is a trench not yet made good across the entire area.

The whole place looks like the Somme. I think we should remove the rest of the concrete and have the whole area redone entirely. Not so D H (we had an argument about this just now) thinks we should work with what we have. I'm not sure how the heck that's even possible.

Please help- we need ideas. We are stressed enough as it is.

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Hopeforever · 17/07/2012 08:00

It's seems a no brainier to me to remove and start again but you could put Decking down to cover it if removal is too hard

duchesse · 17/07/2012 08:02

Thanks! I think decking might be the only solution but was hoping to avoid as not really "in keeping" with the age of the house. Hey ho!

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duchesse · 17/07/2012 08:03

Photos up now on my profile.

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WynkenBlynkenandNod · 17/07/2012 08:10

I'd start again looking at it. You've lovely stone and can see what you mean about decking not suiting the house. We had to build a raised deck over a subsided lethal patio and steps as it would have cost a fortune to build up a new patio to the level needed so was a cover it up with decking job. Given the choice I wouldn't have decking' it's a PITA.

puffyankles · 17/07/2012 08:15

Sorry, but all that concrete is just hideous.

Cost up a squad who will come in with jack hammers and a skip.

duchesse · 17/07/2012 08:16

See what I'm up against? DH thinks we should patch up the concrete and tile it all over, leaving the square raised plinth in the middle.

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duchesse · 17/07/2012 08:21

Wynken- yes it is very nice volcanic stone. We are very fortunate to live in a solidly-built former school. The stone came from a quarry a couple of miles away. A geologist might be able to pinpoint the location of our house to the nearest 4 sq miles.

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manup2012 · 17/07/2012 08:22

No, don't rip up the concrete, when you lay paving it will need to be put down again. With a concrete base you can lay beautiful paving at half the cost. (I am a garden designer).

duchesse · 17/07/2012 08:24

manup- a person after DH's own heart! Thank you. How should one consider dealing with the step between the concrete draining away from the house and plinth? Just leave it as a step?

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manup2012 · 17/07/2012 08:35

I can't give advice without a better view or a plan. Can you get someone to measure up? It will be worth paying for someone to do this before you make plans, partly to ensure levels are dealt with correctly. You could do something really lovely, don't risk a DIY mistake it could cost you more in the long run. I would say that though, wouldn't I?

purplewithred · 17/07/2012 08:50

What ManUp says - get a proper landscaper in to advise; will also act as a mediator between you and DH. Decide what you really want first i.e. patio area, garden bits etc.

Lexilicious · 17/07/2012 08:55

I can't quite figure out what is going on in those photos but it seems to me that you have already got rid of quite a lot of the concrete and are down to real earth? If so, why not make a planted sunken garden (even a bog garden) but pave the parts that are too difficult to take up. You could also build up a third level of raised beds to plant up (and have wide enough edges to sit) so that you don't have to spend lots on pots for plants.

One thing is for certain though, there is no scope for a lawn in this plan!!

duchesse · 17/07/2012 08:59

Lex- we had to have a trench dug through the middle of it (left to right in the photo where you can't see the garage) to sink a superinsulated pipe as part of our installation of a biomass boiler. The boiler will be in the garage, the pipe is to bring the heat to the house. I took the pictures with PhotoBooth and they're not very good. Shall try to take some better ones with the camera.

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Lexilicious · 17/07/2012 09:37

Oh ok, sounds like a huge project then! If I'm right that it is lower than the remaining concrete though, what do you think of a garden on different levels? How old are your children? Interest at different heights could give the illusion of a lot more space overall.

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