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Planning Permission????

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Katymac · 19/02/2006 20:17

OK

I want to build a deck - no planning permission necessary

If I turn it into a pergoda (?) - I assume no planning permission necessary

If I put a roof on it....will I need PP and does it matter what sort of roof?

I need it for shade and dry play for children

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Ronniebaby · 19/02/2006 20:42

My friend did this and she had 2 options, one of those Awnings or she could buy a large pergoda tent thingy's sorry the name has gone out my head, she opted for the tent thingy, and she screwed it into the deck, to hold it in place, but knew come winter she could unscrew it and put it away.

Otherwise, not sure what you can do.

Nbg · 19/02/2006 20:43

I guess it will depend on how high it would be.

My MIL has one and didn't have pp for it.

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Katymac · 19/02/2006 20:45

It will be (hopefully) the same height as the conservatory....the roof that is
The deck is about 22 inches higher than the lawn

I really wanted something semi permanent - rather than an awning

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Ronniebaby · 19/02/2006 20:50

Pagoda.

Also if you are a member of Ace or Studio catalogue, they have a Awning for £169.99

ACE

item no: 770-112-28MS or 770-112-52MS or 770-112-87MS

Take a look, click on the spring & summer, enter page 296 and they have a picture.

Ronniebaby · 19/02/2006 20:52

I meant a Gazebo, thats the word I was looking for.

Ronniebaby · 19/02/2006 20:53

Argos do them, from as little as £12.99 - £24.99 upto £300.

Gazebo

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Katymac · 19/02/2006 20:56

Not really big enough

The deck will (hopefully) be about 30 ft by 20ft

Ideally at least half will be under cover - hopefully all

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fairyjay · 19/02/2006 21:19

I don't think pp is needed for anything which could be regarded as a temporary structure - ie. doesn't have foundations.

We had a treehouse built, which is expected to last 20/30 years, but is still classed as a temporary structure!

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Katymac · 19/02/2006 21:19

I like these but they are slightly out of my price range

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Katymac · 19/02/2006 21:21

Thanks for that Fairyjay - I was hoping something like that applied

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bramblina · 19/02/2006 21:21

My MIL has a pergola and didn't need PP as it's not a permanent structure.

Frizbetheexpansionset · 19/02/2006 21:23

So long as its not a 3rd bigger than the house you don't need pp for it, same goes for the more perm conservatory!

Frizbetheexpansionset · 19/02/2006 21:23

that should read no more than a 3rd bigger.

zippitippitoes · 19/02/2006 21:23

I think it depends how high, how near to the boundary it is

in this area people have had to apply for pp for those large wooden climbing frames in some cases

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Katymac · 19/02/2006 21:30

Not doing very well atm - I can find lots of "sails" which need to come down in the winter

I need it all year round

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jamiesam · 19/02/2006 21:38

Katymac

Would you find this any use? This is for garden buildings (even 'temporary' ones) more than 5 metres from the house. If you come 'out' of this page, you'll find advice if what you want to build would be within 5 metres of the house.

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Katymac · 19/02/2006 21:38

I need it to be waterproof wind resistant and provide shade.......it's not easy

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zippitippitoes · 19/02/2006 21:41

Katy

I hate to say this but it sounds a bit like...

a building

LIZS · 19/02/2006 21:41

We have a pergola which is a basic wooden structure with a corregated plastic roof over paving slabs. It was installed well before we moved in so not sure of pp but suspect it unlikely as it didn't show as an issue when we bought. Great for having a dry place for washing at this time of year. Used to put ds out under it in his pram and then it had trailing and climbing plants for him to watch blow in the wind !

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Katymac · 19/02/2006 21:45

Nah it's not a building it doesn't have walls We won't be actually out in the rain...just hopefully not splashing in the puddles it makes

And only wind proof so it doesn't take off or blow down

What LIZS has sounds great.....except it needs to be shady underneath - is it LIZS?

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Katymac · 19/02/2006 21:47

Jamiesam - we might be stuffed it's for Childminding...that commercail and your link says I'll need pp

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LIZS · 19/02/2006 21:56

It is overshadowed by trees atm so has patches of shade but with climbing plants on top and around the sides it was pretty shady. Maybe you could have some opaque panels or a temporary canopy suspended underneath the roof to give shade in summer.

jamiesam · 19/02/2006 21:58

oops, sorry.

However, did you need planning permission for your childminders business? If not, and if what you want to build is for your family and your business (stress not solely for childminding business use) then you might be able to get round the system.

I think that you really need to talk to your Council's planning department about the need for planning permission. And have a word with your neighbours - if you do need permission, you'll want them to be on your side if at all possible.

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Katymac · 19/02/2006 21:58

Opaque panels would be good

Now if only I can get past the PP thingie

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Katymac · 20/02/2006 13:14

Where can I get opaque panels from?

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