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Just got an allotment - some advice please

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taffetacatski · 28/07/2010 12:15

I have got half an allotment about 20 minutes walk from home, on the way back from school. Very excited!

I have a productive veg patch at home and am pondering three main things at present:

  1. How best to cultivate it. Half of it was cultivated up until last year and it has a few large raised beds that are full of weeds. The other half is untouched, some by trees. Eek. With my veg patch at home, it has always been there, so have never used rotivators/weed membranes/carpet anything like that. Have just done lots and lots of digging, forking in manure, hoeing, etc.
  1. What to grow in it. The plot at home I want stuff I want to eat for dinner each night that I can just pop out and pick eg tomatoes, beans, peas, carrots etc. Also I guess the stuff at home is the stuff that needs more care and watering, as I don't imagine I will be getting to the allotment every day. I am thinking potatoes, globe artichokes, asparagus, broccoli,herbs - not sure what else.
  1. How often once its cultivated I should plan on getting down there. Twice /three times a week? Obv less in the winter...

Any advice appreciated.

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shinyshoes · 28/07/2010 12:38

I know my DP spends all spare time on here. Hope this is of help

www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=81ca3e1eec3c5e4c0d392fcc4d219bbe&/action=forum

You could copy and paste your question in there.

Chatelaine · 28/07/2010 19:32

Do you have a water supply on the allotment? If you clear a patch now you could put in purple sprouting, Brussel Sprouts etc, obviously go for what you like. I suppose it's a case of going for stuff, that once established, do not need constant attention. I share your excitment as we have had our plot for just over a year now and I dream about our veg!!!

taffetacatski · 28/07/2010 21:53

Yes we do have a water supply.

Purple sprouting broccoli sounds good.............

How often do you visit your allotment?

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midnightexpress · 28/07/2010 22:03

Net your brassicas though if I were you. I grew cabbages and purple sprouting last winter, which grew and grew and was just about ready and then it was decimated by pigeons overnight. Kale is good too - great for a winter crop.

My garden is large but not immediately adjacent to our flat and Dp's working away from home in the week, so I'm very much a w/e gardener (if that) this summer. Potatoes are great, as long as you can check regularly for blight. How about overwintering onions and leeks? They won't need much upkeep beyond a bit of light weeding and you probably still have time to get leeks in, depending on where you are - I got teeny ones from Delftland last summer to get a slight head start. They are a great site.

How about some fruit? Rhubarb (I know, it's a vegetable really blah blah), raspberries, blackcurrants? Again, I'd net berries once they flower to be safe.

taffetacatski · 28/07/2010 22:10

Ah yes fruit bushes!!!! Gooseberries and currants I think and rhubarb a good idea too.

Leeks also a good idea - are onion worth doing? Do they taste any different? They are so cheap in the shops.....

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Chatelaine · 28/07/2010 22:10

It's a detached garden, away from our house. We have to carry water (from a well) about 50 meters. No big task once things are established. We visited every day most days in the spring to dig, weed and later plant. More recently it's been 2/3 times a week. The beans and courgettes have taken off big time so daily is also rewarding. Leaving it for a few days, especially after it has rained is great fun in terms of seeing what nature can do given warmth & heat. Loving it.

midnightexpress · 28/07/2010 22:26

Onions - dunno, I live in Scotland and mine all got completely knobbled by That Winter, along with our heavy clay soil - out of about 100 I have 4 awaiting picking (I am not making myself sound like the world's greatest gardener here, am I? ). Perhaps if you grew some of the red ones that are pricier in the shops? Ooh, how about garlic? That's easy peasy to grow, and you could overwinter it. Beetroot is easy too, and if you're far enough south you could probably just get some in now for autumn harvesting. If you have a good sunny spot, you could also try some of the bigger stuff like squashes and pumpkins that need more room?

taffetacatski · 28/07/2010 22:29

sorry about your onions, midnightexpress

we are on chalk in Kent. its very dry here, so the opposite sort of problems to you. (need that water supply, bigtime)

a pumpkin! excellent. will add to list for next year.

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midnightexpress · 28/07/2010 22:38

Ha! We are hoping to move to Kent in the near future, will try to bring some water with us. We have plenty to spare.

I noticed a shop in TW when we were there a few weeks ago promoting allotments in Tonbridge and got all excited. Now all we need is a buyer.

WynkenBlynkenandNod · 29/07/2010 07:05

We got a half plot in February so are new to this. Had a fair bit of couch grass to deal with so used a fork to dig down and get roots out and as many other roots as possible. Then used a hoe to break down the lumps. Towards the end I bought a Wolf soil miller which is good for breaking down lumps. Using a rotivator with the couch grass wasn't an option as it would have just chopped up the couch roots and given us lots more couch grass.

It will probably be really hard to dig at the moment as the ground is so dry. I haven't finished ours completely yet but it is all looking cultivated as have chucked down weed membrane over the last undug bit and planted pumpkins through it.

We don't have any water on our site so things only get a bit of water when planted and that's their lot. It has been interesting to see that actually things can survive without water and it has cut down a lot on the work. It takes me about half an hour to hoe out the new weeds which I do once or twice a week ( couch grass, bind weed and marestail) then at the moment it is just harvesting which is the good bit. I go two to three times a week.

So this year we have had broad beans, peas, lettuce, carrots, spuds, garlic, red onions, courgettes, yellow squash, cucumbers, rainbow chard, runner beans, gooseberries, rhubarb, raspberries, spinach.

We're waiting for pumpkins, sweetcorn, beetroot, chilli's , French beans and I'm really pleased how well things have done despite lack of water. Good luck, hope you enjoy it as much as I have.

taffetacatski · 29/07/2010 07:31

Thanks everyone for your replies, much appreciated. I think I will start in earnest in Sept once the DC are back at school/kindergarten and once we've had a little rain and the ground isn't so hard....

I think I will start with the bits that are already cultivated, digging and forking out weeds, then cover with weed membrane for the winter.

Feb time will get sowing etc, thinking of leeks, red onions, gooseberries, currants, rhubarb, asparagus, globe artichokes, potatoes, spring onions, purple sprouting broccoli. And a few pumpkins....

Lovely to hear you all enjoying your plots so much. midnightexpress - bring lots of water! Hope you will be as happy as us in the garden of England.

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SuzieHomemaker · 29/07/2010 20:42

Garlic & shallots go in in autumn. You can also put in broad beans in the autumn to get an early crop then put more in in the spring.

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