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English GCSE resit failed - other options?

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iwishiwasonacruise · 21/08/2025 20:41

So, my son failed his English GCSE in year 11 last year. He got a 3. He has been doing level 2 car mechanics at his local college and has just passed this with flying colours.

He's a bright boy, but English just isn't for him and he really struggles with it. He got 5s and 6s in all his other subjects.

So he has just resat English alongside his level 2 mechanics, and today has found out that he failed again. To be honest, I don't really understand the pressure for them to do this again and again. If he couldn't pass English with multiple hours per week in school then he's not going to pass it with 2 to 3 hours per week in college.

Anyway, he will now he will be moving onto level 3 mechanics in a couple of weeks. They did say the expectation for level three is that the GCSE have been passed, but they do allow exceptions. And we do know another young lad who has just completed level three of the same course while also resitting his Maths AND English again, so I don't think it's gonna be too much of a problem for him to be accepted on level 3. I honestly think he's one of their best students, he is beyond enthusiastic and they've volunteered him for lots of work experience etc.

He now has a permanent work placement which he started towards the end of his level 2 studying. He's been there full-time over this summer and has learnt so much.
I know when he restarts college they are going to make him resit English again, but I'm wondering if there's any alternatives?
How do I find out if he is able to sit English functional skills instead?

I find that it's very hard to get in touch with anyone at the college to speak about my son personally. It's not like when you could chat to the head of year or their form tutor at school.

His mechanics teacher is very good and very enthusiastic about my son, but he obviously doesn't make the decisions about the GCSE resits.

I was hoping that he could go back to college and do three days of his course, and then have two days on the work placement, so he's consistently learning but also earning and getting experience, but I think these English lessons are going to throw a spanner in the works.

The English lessons over the past year were at really odd times like 3pm on a Monday, and that was the only lesson he had to go in for that whole day. These could be days that he is working and learning the trade that he actually wants to do, but his boss at the garage isn't going to want him leaving at 3pm every time he's in 🤷🏼‍♀️ so I'm also worried that he might lose the placement.

Is there anyway that he doesn't have to resit? Is there ever an exception? And should the college be able to tell me whether he can sit functional skills in his own time instead?

I also need to check that he will still pass level 3 mechanics even if he retakes English but fails again. I'm assuming they can't let him do all the level 3 mechanics work but then say he hasn't actually passed it because of his English GCSE result 🤷🏼‍♀️

While we're on the subject, does anyone have any actual information about functional skills. I've been told it's an alternative qualification but I really know anything about it.

Many thanks ☺️

PS I have already posted this on "education" before I realise this board existed. I will ask Mumsnet to delete the other post.

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YanTanTetheraPetheraBumfitt · 22/08/2025 06:30

I’m a university lecturer and I know we have students on our degree courses who have functional skills rather than GCSE so I would definitely explore this. Best of luck to him. People do thrive and succeed without the gcse and sounds like he’s doing great on his mechanics course.

TeenToTwenties · 22/08/2025 08:43

English Functional Skills, Level 2.

My DD did this in a 'year out' from college.

  1. You can't get funding if under 19 as of 1st Sept of the academic year so need to pay for it yourself.
  2. There are online courses and you can sit all the exams online (from home), but DD needed in person, so we found a tutor at a tutoring centre, and then an exam centre at an 'English for foreign languages' place. DD did City&Guilds but they are all pretty similar.
  3. There are 3 parts, Reading&Comprehension, Writing for purpose, and Speaking&Listening. Each part can be resat individually until you have all three. Colleges want you to do it all on the same day first time as it is easier for them, but we got round that as it isn't a requirement.
  4. The sections are much more accessible than GCSE, but in the writing part there are proportionately more marks for SPaG than the GCSE.
  5. They focus on functional skills not esoteric stuff. The writing has two bits, one is informal eg writing an email to a friend telling them about a holiday, the other is formal eg writing a letter to the local newspaper complaining about building work. They give you bullet points of what to include but you have to get the format and tone correct and use good SPaG.
  6. The reading is about understanding short texts and understanding difference between opinion and fact. Knowing persuasive language, fomats for advertising, leaflets etc.
  7. The speaking and listening was in three parts. Preparing and giving a speech on a topic of your choice (DD did wolves), answering questions from others on the speech. Listening to other speeches and asking questions. Then a round table discussion on a topic given a week in advance. You research it to get info and then you have to take your turn, listen and respond etc.
  8. There are CPG guide books but having a tutor who knew what she was on about was key for DD.
  9. Having passed FS, DD no longer needed to resit English Lang when she returned to college, even though before that college had its hands tied and couldn't offer FS L2.
Wishihadanalgorithm · 22/08/2025 08:53

Whether functional skills or GCSE, I suggest you get a tutor (someone properly qualified, a teacher not a university student) to work with your son. This was the only way a friend was able to pass GCSE English after taking it about 4 times.
I’d suggest 2 sessions a week for about 3 months. That push should help.

sashh · 22/08/2025 09:43

Unfortunately the college do need to keep entering him for GCSE.

He's doing well. Getting a functional skills certificate would show literacy, which is what employers want, he still has to take the GCSE but without worrying about the grade.

TeenToTwenties · 22/08/2025 09:45

sashh · 22/08/2025 09:43

Unfortunately the college do need to keep entering him for GCSE.

He's doing well. Getting a functional skills certificate would show literacy, which is what employers want, he still has to take the GCSE but without worrying about the grade.

DD definitely did not have to do the GCSE once she had the FS L2.
As soon as she had the confirmation, 3 weeks into term, she was allowed to stop.

It could be because she has an EHCP, but I think not.

Scarydinosaurs · 22/08/2025 09:50

If you have a grade 2 GCSE ENGLISH you can take functional skills - but I would ask the college about this option even if your son has a grade three to see if they would consider it.

The college will be best to advise you - good luck - the functional skills AQA GCSE gives you results in 2 weeks and is online - could be a much better option. (I hope this info is up to date - this was the case when I looked at it last year).

TeenToTwenties · 22/08/2025 09:55

Government funding rules seem to be quite restrictive on colleges.
DD's college don't even teach FS L2 as far as I'm aware as they don't have funding/teachers to run alternate qualifications when GCSE resit is mandated for those who have previously got 3s.

But yes seeing if the college can provide it would be by far the easiest method.

If getting a tutor definitely get one who knows the requirements. We wasted 4 months of the year with a tutor who said she could do it but didn't.

Daisypod · 22/08/2025 10:05

My Dd is the same age, got a 3 last year (4 marks off a 4) and did the resit in November and also got a 3 (3 marks off a 4). For the resit in June she had a private tutor for about 6 weeks, he is an ex teacher and examiner and taught her how to do the exam rather than the subject. Yesterday she got her results and got a 5! I knew ahead of time was capable but just needed a different approach. Is that something you could do?

MrCottersJauntyCap · 22/08/2025 10:07

I walked my children through the English lang past papers that are online. I explained it to them in a way they could understand as they were clearly not getting it from their teacher. The mark schemes list everything you can put down so it asked for 5 things and there are many more than this in the text.

For the narrative part they went into the exam with prepared character descriptions, or weather which is a good one, day to night, wind and rain, you can google how to do this. They also had outlines of stories that fit the general titles given. This meant they didn't have to think of stuff on the spot. They had good descriptive words which earns them marks and different punctuation.

It might be worth looking at this because college usually do want them to resit the GCSE again.

LIZS · 22/08/2025 10:08

Did he pass English literature as many places accept either/or.

Iamfree · 22/08/2025 10:10

Please please get him a tutor. He will be an amazing mechanic but being able to write and understand will really help him in life.

SozMate · 22/08/2025 13:42

my DS got nothing higher than a 3 for English all y10 and 11 so we got him a tutor for a few months - she taught him how to structure his answers and basically how to pass the exam. He got 5&6 in his actual exams which was most unexpected! So maybe consider a tutor if you can afford - lots of online options.

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