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Year 12 #2: Carols, commutes & a few stocking fillers

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Stickerrocks · 05/12/2018 21:21

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/further_education/3410431-year-12-1-gcses-are-sooo-last-year

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TheFirstOHN · 04/01/2019 21:52

What a horrible thing for a child to experience. In our nearest town there definitely seems to be more knife crime being reported than there was 10 years ago.

LimitIsUp · 04/01/2019 23:43

Just awful. That poor kid - how do you begin to get over something like that

whistl · 05/01/2019 06:26

Who stabbed the man? Was it a random attack or someone he knew?
The report said that the attacker ran off. Where to? The next carriage?
The poor boy and his family.

Oratory1 · 05/01/2019 07:25

Enjoy the last weekend of holiday all (apologies to those already back). I’m glad now I took your advice and was relaxed about DS and work, it feels like he s has a real break before the long slog starts to kick in again, not to mention future decisions etc etc

Sostenueto · 05/01/2019 07:25

My thoughts and prayers to the family, especially the son who witnessed his fathers death, the world is getting awful now. 2 arrests made, a man and woman. FlowersSadSad

Sostenueto · 05/01/2019 07:28

Not much relaxation for dgd. She went back to school on Thursday, massive whole unit assessment in biology Friday. And then one in maths Monday.Sad

whistl · 05/01/2019 07:55

does anyone have a picture for what 2019 will mean for our DC?
I haven't been through 2nd half of year 12 / start of year 13 before but I know by this time next year, they will have made university applications. Will they also have a very good idea of their likely A level results?

How do they get from here to knowing which universities to apply to and which courses they want to do?

When do we have to start thinking about how they are going to afford going to university?

whistl · 05/01/2019 08:06

PS Another facet of their lives that will come to prominence in 2019, I suspect:
DS remarked to me that girls are "complicated". I was thinking that women form a spectrum of complicatedness, just like men, so I asked him to explain.
He replied they seem to like you one minute and then they don't and then they do again. Then he went bright red, stopped making eye contact and wanted the conversation over..

Knowing DS, he'll come back to me with this again as he obviously wants to work it out but isn't able to by himself. Any thoughts on what I can advise him next time he asks?

Oratory1 · 05/01/2019 08:49

Hmm I’ve never been much help on the bf gf front and have left them to work it out for themselves , I wish I could be more help. Hopefully others will have wise words. On the uni front I think school advice and support should kick in from feb/March but supplemented by home research - but if he doesn’t know yet what to do you could wait for school timeframe to kick it off.

I see the train killer was unknown to his victim, that’s awful

Oratory1 · 05/01/2019 08:52

Don’t be panicked into thinking you’ve left the uni stuff too late by looking at what others are doing - every dc and school is different.

whistl · 05/01/2019 10:11

It has just occurred to me that the train killer went to the station carrying a knife. He didn't know the victim so it he didn't set out from home to stab the victim. He just went out for the day carrying a knife...just in case he had use for it, like you or I might debate whether to take an umbrella???

Soomaa · 05/01/2019 10:35

My thoughts are with the boy and his family. It's aweful to lost a parent, especially in such a violent way.

whistl where I live, many people carry knives 'just in case'. Some schools in our area have metal detectors at the entrance and regulary search the pupils.

DS's school has a parent evening about all the uni related questions in March (or April?). Hopefully, it will be helpful. Does your DS's school have a parent evening too?

TheFirstOHN · 05/01/2019 10:41

The bits in italics are only relevant to those applying for Oxbridge and/or medicine / veterinary

Y12 summer term:
April: research courses, book open days.
June/July: attend open days.
July: find out predicted grades from school; decide what places are feasible to apply to.

Y13 autumn term:
September/October: attend more open days.
September: write personal statement; submit UCAS form.
October half-term: Oxbridge admissions tests.
November: write personal statement; submit UCAS form.
December: Oxbridge interviews

Y13 Spring term
January / February: interviews; receive offers; attend offer holder days.
March: choose one firm offer and one insurance offer.
March/April: submit accommodation preferences.
March/April: apply for student loan.

Y13 summer term:
May/June: A-level exams.
August: confirmation of place; exam results.

242Mummy · 05/01/2019 11:10

whistl Your question about girls and relationships made me think! If my DS came to ask me (not there yet, he's still thinking only of his video games), I would agree that girls are complicated. The best relationships are ones where the partner is kind, loving and encouraging. And of course, fun to be with, someone who is easy to talk to, etc. But I would imagine at this age, many girls (and boys as well) are not so concerned about what they bring to a relationship but what they can get out of it : affirmation, social catchet, confidence boost. It's often a power game as they seek something for themselves. The on-and-off-again girl he mentions is a classic example of someone seeking affirmation and dominance. What's important to stress is that it is, by no means, a reflection of who he is or what he's done. She is trying to elicit a reaction from him in a not-very-mature way. This stems from lack of self-confidence and wanting reassurance.

TheFirst Thanks for the time line! Looking at unis now and booking a few taster sessions. Will be pretty full-on, the next couple of terms. I know DS1's school expects personal statements to be written over the summer holidays, with a draft prepared at the start of Y13 for discussion! Predicted grades will be based on end-of-year exams in May (all done before half term) so we'll have a better idea of where to apply! New Head of Sixth Form starts this term though so we'll have to see what (s)he's like!

KickBishopBrennanUpTheArse · 05/01/2019 11:26

Whistl based on my own teenage experiences and as the parent of a girl who likes girls, I can confirm that both girls and boys are equally complicated in this area and generalisations about one gender over another are to be avoided.

If someone doesn't like you as much as you like them their behaviour can be inexplicable but it usually boils down to the fact that they are not giving it as much thought as you are Wink

We've all been there but it can be hard to take.

Saying that, dd has been with her gf since prom. They marked their 6 month anniversary last week and she stayed over for the first time. It's all very sweet. Even to a bitter cynic like me!

Oratory1 · 05/01/2019 11:30

Spot on Thefirst thanks. Schools will vary in when they want the PS done. Some want it started before the summer hols, most want it completed by Oct half term perhaps with first draft started over the summer, others are more relaxed (tho with Oxbridge clearly needed earlier). Some schools deal with oxbridge/medicine candidates first and make others wait for their input. There is nothing lost by getting an application in on the last day though - unis cannot prioritise early entries.

Here we need to decide whether ds should put time in to the process in case, or wait and go for it the following year if he changes his mind from the apprenticeship route

Oratory1 · 05/01/2019 11:34

Only think to add to the timeline - if you can’t get to all the unis you want to see in June/sept, or can’t decide which to put as firm/insurance then there are offer holder days in the following Feb/March which we found very useful. More useful than open days in fact.

Oratory1 · 05/01/2019 11:37

Ooh it’s in the timeline already - sorry - they are v useful though. In fact DD2 rejected her Cambridge offer and firmed a uni she hadn’t previously visited, but liked the sound of the course at, after going to an offer holder day to find out more. One term in and not regretting it yet

ShalomJackie · 05/01/2019 12:37

We have our Higher Education evening on 31 January where they will be going through all things uni.

Like 242 ours are expected to bave a first draft personal statement done over summer hols to review on return . This is because a high percentage at DS school do apply to and get Oxbridge/Medicine places. The school also prefers it all to be done early if possible so that they can then concentrate on their studies. Remember when submitting UCAS you do not have to put all 5 choices at once so you can add choices in. Indeed it might be sensible in some cases to hold a choice back to see what is offered by initial choices in case they are too high.

Do any of our dc know what their degree subjects will be. I'll kick off :

DS : History

Aspirational: Oxford

Open days already attended: Durham (didn't like), Warwick (liked but not keen on having to live so far out yr2/3)

Open days planning to attend: Oxford (July)
Bristol (June) and Exeter (September).

Maybe somone could do a spreadsheet and we can compare/know who is doing similar and who we can then bounce ideas off.

ShalomJackie · 05/01/2019 12:38

Oratory - can I ask what course and where she ended up - pm if too outing

TheFirstOHN · 05/01/2019 12:46

To put the UCAS application timeline into perspective:

DS1 (Mr Eleventh Hour) started writing his personal statement at the beginning of December; the evening before the deadline the school had set. He still got five offers.

Obviously DS1 wasn't applying for Oxbridge or med / vet.

Knowing DS2, he may have started his first draft already. 🤣

TheFirstOHN · 05/01/2019 12:50

DS2: Physics (with integrated Masters).

Wants to apply to: Birmingham, Southampton.
Might apply to: Oxford.
Still to visit: Bath, Warwick, Nottingham.

Back-up plan: Physics BSc.

KickBishopBrennanUpTheArse · 05/01/2019 12:55

Shalom I'll join.

Course: probably computer science but geography is still in the running

Aspirational: not sure as they all have similar grades

Open days attended: none

Open days planned:

Manchester
Bristol
Edinburgh
Glasgow
Birmingham
Sussex?

She might not go to all of them.

So far she has ruled out Oxbridge "because effort" and London because of cost. Also anywhere more than approx 4 hrs away.

She's going to Birmingham maths dept this month with college so I'm hoping they don't persuade her to consider another subject!

Is anyone else looking at computer science? The grades seem so high.

bpisok · 05/01/2019 13:00

So here's where DD is with the process

  1. Course = No idea. Maybe History, Politics, IR or a combination of them with English Lit, Sociology and Psychology thrown into the mix
  2. University = No idea. London/commuting vs Other city vs Campus
  3. Aspirational = Oxford however Cambridge run a HSPS course which appeals
  4. Current 'working at' grades = 2 x A star and 1 x A (which she wants to get to an A star prediction)
  5. EPQ = no idea (since she knows that it would be beneficial to link it to her ultimate course selection)
  6. Approach to narrowing this down = put head in the sand/refuse to discuss it/change the subject
  7. Timeframe for PS = first draft to be submitted first day back Yr 13
  8. Application submission Oct!!!!

I must admit that I am finding it really really really frustrating 😡

TheFirstOHN · 05/01/2019 13:00

KickBishopBrennan the courses DS2 is looking at all ask for A* A A. This is why I think he should consider applying for a BSc course as one of the 5 options, as the grade requirements are lower.