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Being kicked out of year 13

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LoniceraJaponica · 18/01/2018 18:55

How unusual is it to be kicked out of year 13 at this late stage? DD told me that a student was kicked out last week, and another one looks like she might be kicked out soon. Surely the school would have picked up on their under-performance before now?

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tissuesosoft · 18/01/2018 18:57

How do you know they haven't though? There could have been many many emails, meetings, parent involvement etc before getting to this stage. Or it could be non- academic related

LoniceraJaponica · 18/01/2018 19:04

They probably have been given several chances to improve. But why wait until 5 months before the A levels?

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Astralabe · 18/01/2018 19:06

^^ exactly. You might not have the full facts. Last time we did that kid had done something pretty shitty to another kid. School will do utmost to protect anyone affected.
If academic - maybe more surprising but depends on previous conversations with parents / pupil and targets set. Its really hard to say from the bare facts - don't panic!

ferrier · 18/01/2018 19:08

It's done so they're off roll by the time of the exams and don't count for the league tables.

DearShirt · 18/01/2018 19:12

What's it got to do with you?

titchy · 18/01/2018 19:13

It might not be for academic under-performance...

LoniceraJaponica · 18/01/2018 19:18

Why so shirty DearShirt? I happen to know the student in question as he was at primary school with DD, and feel sad for him.

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redcarbluecar · 18/01/2018 19:19

Unless they've done something specific to get themselves kicked out, my guess is that they're either not doing any work, or not attending, or both, and are now so clearly on course to fail their A levels that it's not benefitting anyone for them still to be on the school's registers.

MsAwesomeDragon · 18/01/2018 19:27

My school has only one kicked someone out in y13 when he viciously beat up ab younger pupil.

Students who are underperforming academically are advised to leave at the end of y12 so they can undertake a different level 3 course elsewhere fully funded. If they don't take that advice then they are offered the support we would offer anyone else but we can't force them to accept that support. I don't think the has ever been anyone who has been kicked out of y13 for academic reasons (some have left of their own accord in order to get a job though)

TheSecondOfHerName · 18/01/2018 19:31

If the student is unlikely to pass any of their courses, there's not much point in them continuing.

I have a son who seemed to be close to this point in the middle of Y12, and I was called in for a meeting with the head of sixth form. Thankfully he managed to up his game, and in the middle of Y13 is now getting Bs and Cs.

Nettleskeins · 20/01/2018 22:36

I think the end of the Christmas term can be a watershed for some pupils. I know someone this happened too. He had not been attending. But he still wanted to "stay". The coursework deadlines clinched it. He now has a job and is so much happier. He has so much promise, but he just wasn't suited to the A level regime. He shouldn't have been there from the beginning of Year 13, but convinced himseld he was going to "change". But in a way, that last term not "changing" was helpful for him, as he saw that he had himself had made the decision rather than the school, who bent over backwards to keep him. They spent a lot of time supporting him. He is a good example of why AS's were a good idea, because he now has nothing to show for the work he did do (except of course his own increased knowledge of the subjects concerned)

Nettleskeins · 20/01/2018 22:39

mrs awesome but if someone doesn't hand in coursework, well that is an academic reason to be kicked out.

Presumably at a certain rate of attendance the school would be accountable for the funding they haven't used on teaching that pupil? Or am I wrong.

MsAwesomeDragon · 21/01/2018 17:18

That's true nettle, and I suppose there would be no choice if they didn't hand in any coursework. That's never happened in my school though, not in y13 anyway. My subject doesn't have coursework anyway, but I believe that in order to be allowed to stay on for y13 they need to have handed in enough coursework for it to count in y12, but I could be wrong.

Allthebestnamesareused · 21/01/2018 19:00

Drugs?
Misbehaviour?
Poor attendance/performance?
Possibly already been flagged up and warnings issued.

Don't feel sad for him feel sad for those in his class who may have been disrupted by whatever was going on!

LIZS · 21/01/2018 19:07

Misconduct, poor attendance record, drugs, inappropriate behaviour, failure to hand work in ... Doubtful he would be dismissed without having been given opportunities to change (unless it was an actual offence) and no different to the world of work. You can feel sad that he has lost out but probably through his own poor choices.

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