really need to rant so please stay with me on this.

[HomeintheSun]

2 months ago we moved from Cyprus to St Athen in South Wales, our quarter is a semi detached 3 bed, which apart from the paper thin walls is really nice. The house is next to a public alley and EVERYONE cuts across our driveway and our front lawn to get to their houses, sometimes right in front of our livingroom window and the garden is always covered in rubbish.
Today I got home from collecting my DS to find dog shit on the lawn a cat then shit on it and then pissed on the drain pipe next to our front door so now the small of cat piss comes in the house every time the door is opened.
The people next door have 2 dogs, that have chewed or forced their way through the fence and the owner has done nothing to stop this, my DH has had to take their dogs back 3 times this week. Their garden is full of dog crap and their little boy is always out there with no shoes or socks on.
I'm feel so down, I miss my friends in Cyprus and DH's works longer hours, I feel all I do is look after the DC, cook, clean and do the washing I don't go anywhere other than Tesco and the school, I'm so lonely, I have no friends here. I hate making a fresh start.
Please tell me this moving and starting over thing gets easier, cause at the moment I hate it here and because I'm so down everything is getting to me.

take the dcs to the beach this w/e and let the wind blow the cobwebs away.

get the hose out and have it ready every time a dog/ cat/ child comes anywhere near your garden (only half joking)...

it can take a while to find your feet - but it'll be ok. more difficult when dcs are school age, but still ok - what are the gym facilities like? not been there for ages, but it's even bigger now - is there a friendly hive lady you can door-step to find something to do?

Hahaha see my Germany thread! When we moved to Wiltshire after Germany I cried myself to sleep for weeks. I missed my lovely house, my great friends and German food! I'm still very depressed about being here tbh so don't feel you're alone. DH works v long hours now and I often feel so very lonely.

I would get pot plants and put them round your garden so people see it's someone's garden not a path. Noone will walk over a big pot to cut across someones garden.

Hi - it will get easier. We're now in our own house but have had 6 MQs and it got a lot easier and actually became normal moving every two years. Now I'm in my own house, I'm desperate to move back to Army Land!!!

Like Madwoman suggests, pop to your Hive and find what's in the area, perhaps volunteer to help out a local preschool or your DCs school - that way you'll meet loads more people.
I would complain to your welfare officer about the neighbours and ask for a fence to be put in front of your lawn, saying that it's being used as a walk way and it's not fair on your DCs.
The dog issue of getting through the fence and isn't on at all. A loose dog poses a danger to your DCs who'll be playing in the garden so you really do need to complain.
The allowance of dogs/pets in quarters in on the condition of the owners looking after it properly so the welfare officer should do something to make them act more responsibly.
Is there a wives club or something that you can join. From past experience, sometimes you just have to be bold and get stuck in otherwise your posting could be quite lonely.
You don't have to necessarily involved with your regiment either; there must be clubs in your local area - could you join something in the day or do extra training for something? Did you work before the DCs?

hi all thanks for all the advice, I have contacted mhs or whatever they're called and they're coming to do the fence on thursday, so that'll be one problem sorted.
strictly putting flower pots out there wouldn't work, people walk between the cars or between the first car and the house also they'd probably just get nicked, someone went over the 6 foot fence next door and stole their patio heater the other week.
we,ve had local teenagers stood on our driveway shouting abuse at some other kid at 9.30 at night until my dh went out and told them to stop shouting and fuck off cause they just woke the dc.
I feel really depressed because all my good friends are in cyprus, I miss the weather, my dh just keeps telling me to forget about cyprus because we're not there any more, it's easy for him to say because he goes to work and meets people, he doesn't have to put himself out there and make new friends

Luciemule I did work before I had them but I have a 5 month old and my ds is at nursery school for just 2.5 hours a day so doesn't really give me a lot of free time. I've been to a baby/toddler group and a coffee morning and will go back,because we're living off camp there isn't anywhere where all the young mums meet like there is in cyprus.

OMG - we are moving to Saints in 3 weeks! It sounds rank by your description.

We have been allocated a MQ on West camp. Perhaps we could meet up once we're all settled.

mum72 Hi we're on east camp, meeting up sounds lovely, where are you moving from?

The area is really nice, my son loves looking at all the animals as we go past in the car, up until 2 months ago he'd never seen a sheep. The school is good and in the nice weather I'm told the beaches are lovely, we went down on a freezing cold day at the begining of Feb so wasn't too good.

We came from Cyprus, I didn't wanna leave and love the hot weather so coming back put me on a downer anyway.

There isn't that much close to the camp (that I've found) it's about 10 min drive to the little tesco and a lot longer to the large tesco.

I hope your move goes ok and it's not too stressful, drop me a line when you're sorted.

Hi we're moving from Brize so not too far really.

Will def have to arrange to meet up - will be intouch once we're settled and back online so keep an eye out on here!

mum72 will do

i live st athan too (not strictly forces but hey ho). If you fancy a coffee just shout - i'm over east camp side too x

oh and mum72 too

blushingm where do people meet up for coffee in St Athen? the I've only been to the blue building by the east camp gate.

No idea. Do new arrivals get a new arrivals meeting or anything??? I am assuming there must be a Hive somewhere. Is there a coffee shop on camp?

We have just over a week to go to removals,DH away and right now I am feeling quite stressed out. Got lots of "other stuff" going on in RL too and feel fit to burst with so much to sort out, deal with and do.

Sorry to hijack the thread but can any of you St Athan ladies tell me who you are with for phone and broaband or who does good deals in that area? Am trying to get that sorted out so I dont have to go cold turkey with no net when we 1st arrive.

Mum72we're with sky for phone, internet and tv, I think DH wanted virgin but was told it wasn't possible. There is a hive on camp but don't think there's a coffee shop on there, couldn't say for sure as only been on camp for the med centre.

We had a work man out on the 13th march and he fixed the part of the fence that the next door dogs broke, my DH pointed out that it would happen again further on down the garden as the fence is weak and needs a wooden batton fixing onto it, the work man didn't appear to bothered, and as predicted the dogs got through yesterday about 3 foot from where they did last time, so I'll be on the phone again tomorrow for someone to come out again.

Hey all, I'm at Saints at the mo, and it is a really good camp, just a bit less communal than other camps i've heard. This is my first married posting and have been here over 5 years now but due to move to Brize in June Mum72 so perhaps you can help me out as am freaking out about quarters etc! Which area are you marching out of and what are the schools like? I have a 2 and 4 year old.

HomeintheSun, have you been to the families centre in Llantwit? Lisa is lovely and Anna, Becca the group workers. Also they run a 0-4 parenting course twice a year, free creche, 10week course, coffee and cake and a great way to meet other mums. I feel so sad that you haven't settled as it is a really nice area and we're lucky with the quarters, esp east camp.

Toddler groups: West Camp comm centre (think having roof done tho now) every tue and fri am, gathering place every mon am and wed pm, llantwit centre every mon pm and thur am. Also loads of language and play, wake up and wiggle stuf at families centre. Storytime Llantwit library wed am. No coffee shop on camp and no new arrival thingy i'm afraid but SWARM has just started (a wives group) they are having their next meet on 27 Apr in the eve, can give you contact details if you like.

As for dogs HomeintheSun just stick to your guns and keep complaining as pets are a privelege, as soon as they become a risk to your childrens safety (eg by getting in garden)MHS will be round putting up 6ft fences! lol.

Tell a lie, BBC has cafe on camp and soft play due soon i think. Where did you get on West camp Mum72?

And BT for broadband, phone.

JZ1980 Are you going to the next SWARM event, I went to the last one and had a really good time, I met a few people through someone I kind of knew in Cyprus but she is moving on again in the next few months.
Where is the families centre in Llantwit, I've found the health centre down Boverton road is it anywhere near there??

Hey. Supposed to be going to next do but we're also heading off for bank holiday weekend either Thurs or Fri so not 100% yet.

Families centre is at St Iltyds School on the mini roundabout opposite Co-op (Not Filco) entrance. Park in there or Co-op then walk around to the side of the building you can't see, through the red doors, there's a reception on the right hand side with a notice board, just follow round to the right and you'll find someone or one of the groups going on - it's really nice and the play workers are fab.

They have groups for smaller babies i think on Fri 1030, otherwise the next toddler group is Thurs morn at 0930. Hope that helps. If you need anything else just shout.

Aw love, I know only too well how you are feeling. I moved from Cyprus after havin my DD to Bordon. I was in the Army myself at the time but on Mat leave and because we weren't married then I was on my own.
I was so lonely and had no one to talk to. The Welfare officer was ridged and she couldn't understand why I wanted to leave the army as I would be able to send DD to boarding school!
When I left and got married I moved to Colchester be be with my new Husband and was so happy to be together as a family, but I then started to feel like I was just here to cook and clean for them. I found it really hard to meet anyone and became really depressed. I went to college to do Beauty therapy NVQ. There I met some really good friends and they were my best 2 days of the week. Unfortunatly DH was posted shortly after I sarted college so DD and I have been here on our own since October. We are moving in two weeks and I have had to fast track to finish college but it was worth it as I now have an amazing friend from college that I will never loose.
I know I have gone on a bit but if any of my experiance helps you thats great.
Why dont you look into the local college to see if there is anything you fancie doing.

hi again - stay and play on a mon pm at the families centre in llantwit is good. For coffee shops the net cafe is ok in llantwit. Run by the church but don't shove it down your throat. Are quite child friendly and relaxed and tolerant if lo's have tantrums (been there). The gathering place by east camp have loads of things going on as does the family centre in llantwit. There is the beach at llantwit which can be nice to spend the day/morning/afternoon..............

Just wanted to let you Saints lot that I am moving in tomorrow! Have packed up our old MQ and staying with family enroute tonite!!

I am still up for meeting up once I am in and settled. Hope to arrange something soon and Homeinthesun - I hope things have improved for you.

Hi mum72 looking forward to meeting.
Hope your move goes ok.

Hello hello.

Well I am here at Saints. Borrowing a very kind new neighbours internet as Talk Talk are taking an absolute age to connect us to the internet. Another 2 weeks they reckon!! Yikes!!

Anyway - any Saints bods fancy meeting up? Not sure where to suggest really as my exciting travels so far have taken me to Tesco in Barry and the UWO on West Camp!

I know there is a coffee morning Fridays at the West camp UWO at 11am, to which I have not been brave enough to go to on my own yet!!

Homeinthesun - how are things with you now?? Hope its improved?

Hi Mum72 I'm not too bad, fence man came out and fixed the fence for a second time, and from time to time it sounds like there's a riot going on next door but apart from that I'm good. DH is away on a 2.5 week course but he's home at the weekends (thankfully) How's the house?

There is a coffee morning on Tuesday mornings at the Gathering place (that's the blue building near the east gate.) I've been to toddler group on the west camp side, it was ok but the woman I went with has gone away for a week so I'll pop back there when she's back, I'm not brave enough to go on my own. I would go to the friday coffee morning but if it starts at 11am, it isn't really so good as DS goes to nursery school in the afternoons so from about 11.20ish I have to start getting him round to the idea of lunch (he's easily distracted and taked ages over his lunch)

Hey girls, Mum72 if you live where i think you do i've heard your neighbours are moving - not 100% on this though but fingers crossed eh. Keep complaining and ringing MHS, it'll pay off eventually. Or contact HIC re:welfare issue and apply for betterment move, lots of houses coming up free at my end. Have you looked into the parenting course yet? It's great if only for a break from the kids and coffee and cakes! Did you make it to the last Swarm night, we couldn't as went away for the wkend.

I haven't been to Gathering place coffee morning as eldest is at Nursery and youngest and i usually make the most of the time and do shopping or housework! But i do know Michelle the deacon there and she is lovely and VERY friendly. Elaine's in Llantwit is nice for coffee, i think Maes Glas hold coffee mornings on East Camp too. With only 6 weeks before we go, i'm up to my eyeballs with packing, schools, housing etc i feel as if i've got loads to do!