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Forces sweethearts

If you have a family member in the Royal Navy, RAF or army, find support from other Mumsnetters here.

Are you allowed to take civilian friends (with their children) to your camp M&T group?

11 replies

VanillaPumpkin · 29/04/2008 11:34

? or not because of insurance?
Just wondering what your camp rules are.

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Dynamicnanny · 29/04/2008 13:56

I hope so - I'm a nanny and want to go to the camp M and T - hope they'll accept me now - I am nice

McDreamy · 29/04/2008 13:57

I am sure they can come! Hi VP

saltire · 29/04/2008 15:16

I asked DH. He said (for the RAF anyway) the rules are that the service personnel can sponsor them, and they can apply for a recreation pass. This applies to M&T groups on the base.
Technically speaking the DW/DH/DP of a serving member of HM Forces should not be able to take guests onto bases

kerryk · 29/04/2008 15:23

yes we did but they were a total pain in the arse, all they wanted to do was shag some of the soldiers. (i know not everyone would be like this we were mega unlucky)

my poor dh came in one day to get the door keys of me and was pounced upon by some of them, he is pretty tasty

once he had left the sluttiest one said to me that i had nothing to worry about as she did not go for guys with shaved heads, my responce was "er, no love. i have nothing to worry about as i dont think he plans on downgrading"

sorry not really related to op but even a few years on i shiver at the thought of them.

VanillaPumpkin · 29/04/2008 16:17

Kerryk .
Saltire - Very interested in what your DH said as mine said more or less the same.
Dynamicnanny - Do you have a pass? I think you will be fine with that.

A friend of mine who's dd2 is my dd2's best buddy has been coming along with me, as my guest. She knows others at the group too through school and nursery etc. She used to go to the group with another friend years ago (before we even got here) with her first dd so I didn't even think twice about it. We have only been together twice but I have now been told she can't come. The M&T is on MOD property but not behind the wire iyswim.
I do understand the insurance implications and who funds it etc but it is a real shame imo. I wonder if I can get her a recreational pass then. She is obv on the system for visiting me (and has been on from before my time). Tbh though she is so pissed off I am not sure she wants to come back as she is taking it a bit personally.

The other thing is that the venue gets hired out for parties that are attended by raf and civvie children and parents. I have booked it for dd2's party. How do they get round the insurance thing then? I have asked them to look at this but now I am worried I may mess up people's parties by interfering.
Gah! Bloody politics.

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saltire · 29/04/2008 17:41

If it's not behind the wire, it shouldn't be a problem. I know the M&T group I used to run wasn't behind the wire, and a lot of the MQs were sold off. Caused no end of problems.
Dynamicnanny - are you a nanny for a military family, or a civvie family? if it's military then they should have a pass for you anyway.

VanillaPumpkin · 29/04/2008 17:56

This is partly what I thought Saltire. It is not behind the wire and neither is the coffee shop or the thrift shop or the Spar, all of which are used regularly by civvies.
DH asked about the party insurance and got some vague answer that they were insured for parties but not general use . Sounds dodgy to me. Anyhow obviously nothing I can do. This is why I joined the civvie nursery and civvie M&T though. I will ask about a rec pass when I next get her a pass to visit my house.

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laura032004 · 29/04/2008 19:22

Our M&T group was in our community centre on the married patch. We were about 1m from the actual base. No problems with civvies attending, 'sponsored' or otherwise. They also used the centre for Brownies, Slimming World etc. Think the insurance thing is a red herring.

VanillaPumpkin · 30/04/2008 16:02

Ok. I asked about an activities pass today and was told it wouldn't be necessary as it is not behind the wire .
Someone needs to get their story straight.
Either civvies are insured to go there or the parties are happening without insurance. I do not believe they have special insurance for the parties. (I wait to be corrected though).
I have been adviced by the Flt Sgt in the guardroom to write to the OIC. I got the impression he felt there was no problem with my friend attending due to insurance. If they want to make it exclusive that is another issue. My friend would never go without me as an 'escort'. I find it all a bit bizarre tbh. It is a great venue and my friend works so meeting there when we did was near perfect for us.
I initially accepted this as one of those things but now I think it needs looking at more closely....Oh dear I am turning into a trouble maker .

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VanillaPumpkin · 30/04/2008 16:03

adviSed

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Dynamicnanny · 30/04/2008 20:24

I went to toddlers today and the mums seemed lovely even though my two played up

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