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If you have a family member in the Royal Navy, RAF or army, find support from other Mumsnetters here.

i am a Troublesome Wife...

33 replies

NickOfTime · 05/10/2010 16:04

so apparently i've upset the entire chain of command by sticking up for families of pre-school children in our community, who have been told that they must pay the nursery education grant portion of their pre-school bill up front each month, which will then be refunded (well, claimed for anyway) at the end of each term.

i appear to be the only person who thinks this is unacceptable in any form, and clearly against dfes guidance, which states that under NO circumstances should parents be required to do this.

having raised it to the aff and through the chain of command, i have been told it won't change and the unit will do as it likes.

apparently they have told the families that anyone suffering financial hardship can go to ssafa, or get an interest free loan through the pay office. because, clearly families with young children are going to be queueing up to explain they are skint and can't afford the nursery fees, right?

however, i then made a tactical error and approached the education officer at my place of work, which resulted in a bit of a ding dong Blush. i put my hands up and explained to my manager that i shouldn't have discussed it with him at work, but he came in and it developed naturally. anyway, the guy left saying he would have a look at it, hadn't realised some of the facts (like dfes said it wasn't to happen) etc etc.

i left it then, because i trusted he would look into it.

so then yesterday i got an almighty shooing at work. my boss had an official complaint about my behaviour from the SO1. (fair enough - had already said it wasn't an appropriate setting - took it on the chin, apologised again, etc) my boss wants me to go and speak to the SO1, but i know i'm going to lose it and be really exceptionally rude about the intelligence of a young man that apparently can't tell the difference between a wife and a representative of a financial organisation, which will somehwat divert attention from the real issue - that of families being forced to gork out hundreds of dollars in additional nursery payments, leaving themselves short (at christmas - no way will the refund be even processed by easter if i know the military... and boy, do i.)

so having used the appropriate channels, i get the finger. using an inapprpriate channel, i get told that if i express my opinion again, there will be an official complaint to regional manager and i'll pretty much get sacked.

i can live with that tbh.

but i'm pretty certain that had i discussed this with the guy outside of my work, he'd have done the same thing - run off squealing to the SO1 and demanded that my husband be told to get me in line.

ffs.

i'm livid - who will help these families? why on earth should they be forced to pay out a government grant in advance and claim the money back months later, in direct contravention of govt guidance?

my boss is okay btw - she did say she wasn't going to stop me having opinions, but that i shouldn't be expressing them at work (yep, not daft, realised that, but my absolute frustration boiled over, which is why i went to her and fessed up)

and if i continue to beat this blardy dead horse, it now looks like sour grapes because i got told off like a four year old. aaaargh.

anyway, just wanted to rant.

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loubielou31 · 07/10/2010 08:58

still can't work out the crossing out thing.

luciemule · 07/10/2010 09:23

loubie - think you have to put the dashes before and after every single word separately so...wussy captain Smile

scaryteacher · 07/10/2010 10:55

Do not apologise again. You have not done anything wrong, if getting cross at seeing families having to pay for something that should be free, is wrong. This captain is in the wrong for having the temerity to complain about you to the Colonel. What the hell would he do if he came up against this in real life - get the Colonel to complain that the bank staff/council tax people had been rude to him? Fgs.

He is taking advantage of the fact that your dh is in the Army; and he should be very careful if your dh is senior to him as these things do come back and bite you in the bum. It just takes a word dropped into the right ear. I have seen it happen.

What rule book could they pull out Loubie? She has not done anything wrong - I would have done exactly the same in her position and have got a copy of the DfES guidelines to boot to back up my point.

NickOfTime · 07/10/2010 14:47

loubie - quite right, dependants subject to military discipline o'seas - but as I haven't actually got drunk and punched his lights out, I can't really see how they would administer anything other than a little chat. all i did was disagree with the policy, told him in no uncertain terms why, and suggest he needed to give it a rethink. (and pointed out that maybe he (or someone) should have read the dfes guidelines before making their policy decision.) and accuse the army of putting their own financial burden onto the shoulders of young families. Grin

the only issue was i did it at my place of work - so a discipline matter for my civilian employer once the captain himself had complained. or apparently not.

not ranting at you btw...

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NickOfTime · 07/10/2010 14:48

but i can't wait for the next dinner party where we all happen to end up at the same table lol... Grin

pass me another glass. Wink

then they can discipline me.

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SandyChick · 26/10/2010 17:45

Sorry haven't read the whole thread.

I think you're doing the right thing.

At the navy pre schools in Plymouth, where ds almost started in sept, you need to apply for the funding direct with the local authority and have it in place before the child starts.

Does your pre school not work in the same way? Does it take civvie dc's too?

Chulita · 28/10/2010 09:58

nickoftime good for you for fighting this. My LOs aren't old enough for nursery yet but I'd be well pee'd orf if this happened to me even though we'd probably just pay up and steam at home.
I hope someone listens, I wouldn't have the first clue where to start with something like this!

fedupwithdeployment · 03/11/2010 13:56

My DS is at Northwood nursery which in on the base. We certainly don't pay up in advance!

Stick to your guns as everyone else has said. It sounds outrageous to me!

My DH never likes complaining about anything (unlike me!) but recently he made a formal complaint (first time in 22 years) and has recently received a positive response!

Keep at it!

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