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Can someone please tell me, for once and for all -

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needsdirection · 04/05/2010 21:55

is there a risk (however small) of getting salmonella from one of those chocolate puddings (cake that's not cooked all the way through, so the hot chocolate mixture oozes out of the middle - eg. Nigella's Gooey Chocolate Puddings)?

Are the eggs in the batter cooked enough to destroy any bacteria that might be present or not?

Thank you!

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LowLevelWhinging · 04/05/2010 21:56

You are right that it is raw, uncooked batter in the middle and so is not cooked enough to kill all bacteria.

Katymac · 04/05/2010 21:57

Salmonella

Salmonella bacteria are killed by temperatures above 55°C (130°F). The rate at which bacteria are destroyed depends on temperature, species, acidity (pH), and humidity (Angelotti et al.). Ten minutes at 65°C (150°F), or less than two minutes at 70°C (160°F), are both about as effective as an hour at 60°C (140°F). These times and temperatures are sufficient to kill 99.9999% of a particularly heat-resistant strain (S. senftenberg), in custard. (At any given temperature, the proportion of surviving bacteria killed in a given time is constant: it takes one sixth of these times to destroy 90% of the bacteria; one third of the time to kill 99%; half the time to kill 99.9%, and so on. A lethal dose may be as few as 500,000 bacteria.)

from here

So buy a probe & test the temp

needsdirection · 04/05/2010 22:00

Thanks, this is useful. Nigella's cakes are cooked for 12 mins at 200°C - so probably ok? But I will definitely buy a probe.

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Katymac · 04/05/2010 22:06

Yes - it is cooked for an hour at 60 but how hot is the centre you should test it when it comes out of the oven, then 1 minute later, then 2 minutes later

If the temp at zero, 1 & 2 re all above 70 then you are OK

If it isn't then when you cook the next one you leave it in longer

Katymac · 04/05/2010 22:07

Sorry 12min

Probes cost about £15-£20

But remember you are talking chocolate

needsdirection · 04/05/2010 22:12

Thank you. Definitely need a probe. What do you mean about the chocolate?

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Katymac · 04/05/2010 22:21

Well it would be worth spending £50 if it meant you could eat chocolate, wouldn't it?

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