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Does anybody know what is wrong with fructose???

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MilaMae · 04/09/2008 22:49

Is it just because it's a sugar?

My uncle is a medical scientist and won't touch the stuff. Thinks it's the food of the devil.

Kind of switched off during the conversation we had ages ago but been wondering lately as seen it in quite a few products.

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NoBiggy · 04/09/2008 23:37

There is something about that corn syrup stuff. I can't remember what it was, but on a documentary, someone looked at the ingredients on a pack of something or other, said "high fructose corn syrup, now that does " such and such a thing in the body. I just can't remember what it was. But since then I've just remembered that it's not a good thing. And that sugar in something would be preferable.

Wish I could remember!

combustiblelemon · 04/09/2008 23:46

Food manufacturers like to use it in everything, because of all the reasons Kewcumber mentioned. It's amazing how the modern food industry seems to be dominated by a handful of common ingredients. Shitty luck for Califrau to be allergic to one. Palm oil is getting pretty ubiquitous too, but the concerns with that are more about enviromental impact than health.

thumbwitch · 04/09/2008 23:59

fructose is not all good news.
It is an intrinsic sugar found in fruits, it is one half of the Sucrose molecule (glucose is the other half) and is therefore in any prouct that contains sucrose. It is sweeter than gluose and therefore less can be used to achieve the same level of sweetness.
It is passively absorbed by the gut. So far, not a problem.

Fructose is either re-packaged into glucose when absorbed or it is turned into sorbitol or mannitol, especially when high levels are consumed by diabetics. Sorbitol damages the eyes and kidneys, a problem already for diabetics - so fructose is not really a good alternative sugar for diabetics.

Sweets for diabetics often contain sorbitol or mannitol for sweetening - but it is poorly absorbed in the human gut, the majority of it being used by the gut bacteria, who produce large quantities of gas with it. So using it as a sweetener is less dangerous than using fructose, which can get turned into sorbitol after absorption and hence get into the bloodstream and affect eyes/kidneys.

Califrau · 05/09/2008 00:37

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thumbwitch · 05/09/2008 00:38

wow Cali, you have a diificult time!

Califrau · 05/09/2008 00:42

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thumbwitch · 05/09/2008 00:44

for you!

Sidonie · 05/09/2008 02:18

From the Health Report - ABC Radio - very good article.
www.abc.net.au/rn/healthreport/stories/2007/1969924.htm

Dr Robert Lustig is Professor of Pediatric Endocrinology at the University of California, San Francisco.

"The only organ in your body that can take up fructose is your liver. Glucose, the standard sugar, can be taken up by every organ in the body, only 20% of glucose load ends up at your liver.

In fact fructose, because of the way it's metabolised, is actually damaging your liver the same way alcohol is. In fact it's the exact same pathway, in fact fructose is alcohol without the buzz.

There's clear scientific evidence on the fructose doing three things that are particularly bad in the liver. The first is this uric acid pathway that I just mentioned, the second is that fructose initiates what's known as de novo lipogenesis.

Norman Swan: Which is fat production.

Robert Lustig: Excess fat production and so VLDL, very low density lipoproteins end up being manufactured when you consume this large bolus of fructose in a way that glucose does not, and so that leads to dyslipidaemia.

Norman Swan: And that's the bad form of cholesterol.

Robert Lustig: That's correct. And then the last thing that fructose does in the liver is it initiates an enzyme called Junk one, and Junk one has been shown by investigators at Harvard Medical School basically is the inflammation pathway and when you initiate Junk one what happens is that your insulin receptor in your liver stops working."

Overall: Fructose added to food is bad. Fructose in fresh food is fine; fibre is the key.

Califrau · 05/09/2008 02:54

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Othersideofthechannel · 05/09/2008 05:13

Califrau - you must be soo healthy!
SIL is American and told me about the HFCS problem a few years back.
We tend to get natural yoghurt and sweeten with home made jam or honey or freshfruit. But I'm guessing you can't even do that.

MilaMae · 05/09/2008 15:21

Thanks Sidonie et al ,mum says he also does research into obesity so can see his aversion to fructose now.

Many thanks for all the info [smile

One other thing somebody mentioned palm oil I know that's bad for the environment but isn't it a dodgy fat too (saturated or trans)?????

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Califrau · 05/09/2008 17:04

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Kewcumber · 05/09/2008 22:00

yes palm oil is a health issue not just an environmental one - its cheap to make and it prolongs shelf life of many things. How many people know that the calorie content of most bread is significantly higher than it used to be because of added fat? Bread lasts a lot longer though

The World Health Organization (WHO) states there is convincing evidence that palmitic oil consumption contributes to an increased risk of developing cardiovascular diseases.

MilaMae whilst I'm sure these kind of issues don't help with the diabetes problem in the US, anyone who thinks the main cause is any other than over eating is kidding themselves!

MilaMae · 05/09/2008 22:13

I can't comment on that at all Kewcumber.Know absolutely nothing about diabetes or what he thinks are the main causes. Only know he was very anti fructose,now know why

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Othersideofthechannel · 06/09/2008 06:33

Oh sorry Califrau, I didn't realise veg were out. I imagined you living on grilled fish, meat and salad. I suppose there is fructose in veg only not so much as in fruit.

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