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FAIRLY URGENT QUESTION: Prawns and Coconut Milk for an 8 month old?

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Demented · 11/02/2003 15:47

I am making a yummy Thai curry for dinner tonight containing prawns and coconut milk. Is anyone on-line just now how might know whether my DS2, 8 months could have this? I try to give him most of our family meals but I am unsure about this one. If not or if no-one can help me it's not the end of the world he can have a jar of Hipp but this is quite mild and nice and I think he would like it.

If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. TIA.

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bundle · 11/02/2003 15:49

I would be very wary of prawns because of the risk of foodpoisoning - but the coconut milk/curry sounds lovely. could you do a bit for him before you add the prawns with eg some softened potatoes/other veg in it? mmmmm

Demented · 11/02/2003 15:57

Thanks bundle, I knew someone one Mumsnet would know the answer. I was a bit worried about the prawns and just wasn't sure about the coconut milk. It is a fab recipe that has butternut squash in it and also salmon, the prawns are the last thing to go in. Doh I just didn't think about taking his portion out first!

Thanks very much!

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elliott · 11/02/2003 16:11

Is that the Nigella recipe? Someone made it for me once and it IS yummy (can I come??)

bundle · 11/02/2003 17:13

mmmmm sounds lovely. Mine wasn't THE answer, just a hunch, but better safe than sorry...and all the more prawns for you

dkdad · 11/02/2003 18:29

Sounds gorgeous! Please, is there a link to a recipe womewhere?

Please, please!

Demented · 11/02/2003 20:17

Yes it was delicious, after all that I decided not to give it to DS2 as I had forgotten about the fish stock and fish sauce - both high in salt that go into it. I'm sure I have posted the recipe before and I'll go and have a look and see if I can find it and I'll copy and paste it here. It is Nigella's, it's a great recipe!

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Demented · 11/02/2003 20:25

400ml tin coconut milk
1-2 tablespoons yellow (or red) Thai curry paste
350ml fish stock (I use boiling water and a slug of Benedicta Touch of Taste Concentrated Fish Bouillon; cubes would do)
3 tablespoons fish sauce
2 tablespoons palm sugar or caster sugar
3 lemongrass stalks, each cut into three and bruised with the flat of a knife
3 lime leaves, de-stalked and cut into strips
1/2 teaspoon turmeric
1kg pumpkin (or butternut squash), peeled and cut into large-bite-sized chunks
500g peeled raw prawns
pak choi or any other green vegtables of your choice
juice of 1/2-1 lime, to taste
coriander, to serve

Skim the thick creamy top off the tin of coconut milk and put it, over medium heat, into a large saucepan or casserole with the curry paste. Let it sizzle and, using a fork, whisk or wooden spoon, beat milk and paste together until combined. Still beating gently, add the rest of the coconut milk, fish stock, fish sauce, sugar, lemongrass, lime leaves and turmeric. Bring to a boil and then add the pumpkin. Cook on a fast simmer until the pumpkin is tender, about 15 minutes, although different sorts of pumpkins can vary enormously in the time they take to cook; some squash take as little as 5 minutes.
As I mentioned, you can cook the curry up till this part in advance, maybe leaving the pumpkin with a tiny bit of bite to it (it will soften and cook as the pan cools). Either way, when you're about 5 minutes away from wanting to eat, get ready to cook the seafood.
So, to the robustly simmering pan, add the salmon and prawns (if you're using the prawns from frozen they'll need to go in before the salmon). When the salmon and prawns have cooked through, which shouldn't take more than 3-4 minutes, stir in any green veg you're using - sliced, chopped or shredded as suits - and tamp down with a wooden spoon. When the pak choi's wilted, squeeze in the juice of half a lime, stir and taste and add the juice of the remaining half if you feel it needs it. Take the pan off the heat or decant the curry into a large bowl, and sprinkle over the coriander; the point is that the coriander goes in just before serving. Serve with more chopped coriander for people to add to their own bowls as they eat, and some plain Thai or basmati rice.
Serves 4-6.

I think this should be all the info you need, she has a page of blurb before this but I think she is just enthusing about the recipe.

I do not have Nigella's money and have to make do with our local Asda or Tesco so tend to use dried lime leaves and lemongrass (you can't eat the dried lemongrass) but it still tastes nice. I tend to skimp a bit on the salmon and prawns, Asda do a pack of 200g frozen raw tiger prawns for £2.99 and I tend to use two of these rather than the 500g stated, there is still plenty as she is always a bit extravagant anyway.

Hope you enjoy it!

PS Tonight we had spinach in it as Pak Choi seems to be a bit rare round these parts, although it is nice if you can get it!

I usually find the above quantity does us for two nights, two adults, one four year old I make the recipe up until just before you put the fish in then take half out for freezing or the next night and only use half of the fish & veg recommended and keep the other half for next time.

Thank you again for your advice about the prawns.

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dkdad · 11/02/2003 21:27

Fabulous! Thanks a lot for that.

Luckily, here in Denmark, both salmon and prawns are much cheaper than the UK because we eat so much of them!

Looking forward to trying it.

NikkiD · 12/02/2003 15:58

mmmmmmmm. A friend of mine made this for us last week and it was delicious!!!!!!

Foodie · 14/02/2003 10:44

DKdad - if only it were the case that increased demand led to a lower price. In the case of cheap salmon in Denmark, it's due to a high supply of salmon coming out of Norway, which is often being sold below the cost of production to traders. These traders have no interest in the long term survival of the industry, all they have to do is make a margin. And given that they can be no more than a bloke in an office in Padborg with a phone and a fax, that margin isn't very big. There's a minimum import price into the EU, but in fact it's an irrelevance, as there are so many ways to get around it. (As you might be able to tell, I've had some experience of this, and also have changed my name for this post). Anyway, enjoy your seafood - very healthy you know!

yuyee · 18/02/2003 03:42

Demented, I know the food is gone (sounds delicious!). Sorry I didn't read your post earlier. But just for the next time or for other people, I'd like to say something as a Thai person. We generally don't give curry (or spicy food for that matter) to babies or young children in Thailand, even if it's just a tiny bit spicy. It can upset their stomach quite easily. We usually wait till they're at least 3 years or older.

I've also read in another book lately on food allergies. Shellfish is well known to cause food allergies in many children. But coconut is also on the list which is quite surprising to me too. To be on a safe side, wait till the baby is 1 year old.

One other tip: If you can find fresh/frozen lime leaves, tear them into pieces rather than cutting them up. They'll smell much stronger that way. If you get fresh ones, just freeze them. Then when you want to use them, just soak them in warm water for a few minutes first.

Demented · 18/02/2003 13:50

Thanks yuyee, a "real Thai person", I love the cultural diversity of Mumsnet! I'm really interested that you say that in Thailand children don't eat spicy food until over three years. We eat alot of spicy food and on the advice of my HV (but then they are mostly mad anyway ) have given spicy foods to both my children from about six months. Poor DS2 is going to have his first taste of chilli tomorrow maybe it's not the best of ideas then.

Thanks as well for the info about the coconut milk, I had a feeling about that. Good tip about the lime leaves too, I am sure I could get fresh lime leaves in Edinburgh, it hadn't even ocurred to me that you could freeze them.

It is a tasty recipe although I am sure it is not a patch on real Thai cooking!

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yuyee · 19/02/2003 01:23

Demented, I guess it does no harm if you keep it really mild and watch carefully whether it upsets them or not. If you haven't seen any problem so far, I wouldn't deprive them of good food.

Now that I've thought more about it, I think it's more like at least 5-6 years old before we even dare try to give kids the mild version of spicy food. Even then, we give like a spoon or two at first and see if it agrees with him/her. Some kids like spicy food right away, others don't until many, many years later. I'd say most people can eat the standard version of spicy food only when they're well in their teens.

You're right, the recipe doesn't sounds much like any real Thai dish I've known. But it still sounds delicious though and there's nothing wrong with a good, delicious recipe.

Oh, if you're into Thai cooking, you can freeze those tiny Thai chilis and soak them in warm water when you want to use them too.

Crunchie · 19/02/2003 09:13

yuyee thanks for the tip about the chillis I have the remains of a packet in the fridge as I did this recipe on Friday, and I knew I wouldn't use them all up!!

Spanna · 19/02/2003 14:10

Interesting conversation. My babe is 13 months and we have been giving her most things we eat for quite a few months now. I quite often cook a thai-style/indian fish/veg curry with coconut milk and she LOVES IT!! I just omit salt/stock. She also likes a (hotter than you would think) chilli!! She has never suffered any after effects! I usually use Quorn in chilli - does anyone know about babies having this? It doesn't say anything on the packet but I'm sure I read somewhere they shouldn't have it till age 2. Any advice?

elliott · 19/02/2003 14:13

yuyee, given the (to my tastes) fearsome heat of most real Thai curries, I suspect that what you call a taste of 'mildly spiced' food would be much hotter than anything most of us would be comtemplating for our babies!

NQWWW · 19/02/2003 15:18

I have been warned to avoid coconut in case of nut allergy, so I'm not intending to give it to my son until he's 5. Having said that, I have seen it as an ingredient in jars of babyfood.

Spanna - I give Quorn to my son regularly, as I've heard nothing to say I shouldn't - its made from a fungus, isn't it (although I know its got other ingredients, including egg)? I'd be very interested to hear if we're not supposed to.

Indian babies eat a very spicy diet, I understand.

yuyee · 25/02/2003 19:54

elliot, I was talking about ANY spiced food. So ANY curry, no matter how mild it is, we're not giving it to young children, especially babies. It's not just the heat, it's all the spices that go in also.

I didn't mean to criticize any of you or how it's done in the western countries. The point I was trying to make is that some people think that giving spicy food to babies is what people in Thailand do all the time. And that's just not true at all. So if you would like to do it, just be aware of that and also watch your baby's reactions very carefully.

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