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Can someone explain Fanny Craddock to me?

98 replies

Gruffalowings · 21/11/2024 18:54

Was she popular?
did people rate her recipes?

She seems to lack any warmth and to be very bossy.

Was that just the style in the 70s? Did it mean you were efficient?

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JudyJulie · 21/11/2024 21:48

DontMowMyMeadow · 21/11/2024 19:03

Fanny Cradock started on the telly in 1955. That's very nearly a century ago.
She was totally irrelevant and unrepresentative of modern life way before she came off the air in 1975.
Totally unrelatable to today.

What made you ask the question?

I was born in 1955 and I assure you it really isn't nearly a century ago!

RubyRooRed · 21/11/2024 21:54

CurlsandCurves · 21/11/2024 20:55

It’s not on iPlayer anymore, but if you can track it down, do watch ‘Fear of Fanny’. Stars Julia Davis as Fanny and Mark Gatiss as her husband. Fantastic.

Was going to mention this , it was a really good show.

AdaColeman · 21/11/2024 23:20

I loved the Galloping Gourmet, until he went all healthy and macrobiotic.

HundredAcreOwl · 21/11/2024 23:33

JudyJulie · 21/11/2024 21:48

I was born in 1955 and I assure you it really isn't nearly a century ago!

Also born mid-50s, I'm not even three quarters of a century old yet...but way over half!

Kilroywashere · 22/11/2024 00:08

AdaColeman · 21/11/2024 23:20

I loved the Galloping Gourmet, until he went all healthy and macrobiotic.

Did he? I still make his Engadine Nusstorte - it must be the complete opposite of healthy!

Thevelvelletes · 22/11/2024 00:42

MrsMoastyToasty · 21/11/2024 21:12

I preferred the Galloping Gourmet.

Oh no he was an insufferable prick.

elp30 · 22/11/2024 01:20

Georgyporky · 21/11/2024 19:42

She was "of her time" - so is dated. So is Delia.

I watched a few videos of Fanny many years ago and she was a hoot.

I don't understand the fondness for Delia. I find her and her food dull but she was indeed of her time.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 22/11/2024 03:41

My late Godfather was a lighting tech for the BBC and used to do her programme. He said she was a nightmare to work with as she interfered with every aspect of the show. She was aware she had small eyes and used to bark at him to ‘bash it in my eyes darling’, meaning to light her face to the max. 😂

cookiebee · 23/11/2024 17:09

The thing is about Fanny is that she has an almost mythical like status, the surviving footage of her, like the Christmas episodes which are generally laughed at by modern audiences are viewed through a modern lense. She was in her 70s at that point, people laugh at her frocks and penciled on eyebrows, but all old ladies back then looked like that when they were dolled up, they were young in the 20s, 30s, 40s, they had all plucked away their eyebrows and drawn them back on decades ago, it was the fashion.

She came about in the post war years and of course demonstrated lots of bright and innovative cooking, such as dyeing eggs blue and mashed potatoes green to bring glamour into people’s lives after the drab war years. But she did demonstrate lots of normal cooking, two shows exist on YouTube of her showing how to cook casseroles and the like, but the bbc had a videotape wiping policy back then as tape was expensive, so most of her shows no longer exist that would show that she was a very competent cook and champion of the housewife and budgets etc.

Reading about her life and a bit between the lines, she had an incredibly hard beginning, she was born in 1909 and had to survive in a world where women were not given a shit about, I think she embellished a lot of her stories, but she was widowed young and had to take on lots of jobs to survive, had to leave two kids behind, and also had to leave one son locked in a bedsit to go out and work, no social security in those days. She may seem harsh to modern audiences and a bit of a joke, but those women were hard and had seen a lot, my nan was in an unmarried mothers clinic in the 30s and treated like shit for getting pregnant out of wedlock, bloody hardcore and incredible, just like Fanny! Fanny used to light her cigs off the gas cookers and swear like a sailor apparently 😂

Gruffalowings · 23/11/2024 17:18

Thanks for that @cookiebee .

I find the story of British cooking really interesting.

She talks a lot about finances and household management. All still relevant.

I shall watch the casserole episodes.

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CherryVanillaPie · 23/11/2024 17:41

cookiebee · 23/11/2024 17:09

The thing is about Fanny is that she has an almost mythical like status, the surviving footage of her, like the Christmas episodes which are generally laughed at by modern audiences are viewed through a modern lense. She was in her 70s at that point, people laugh at her frocks and penciled on eyebrows, but all old ladies back then looked like that when they were dolled up, they were young in the 20s, 30s, 40s, they had all plucked away their eyebrows and drawn them back on decades ago, it was the fashion.

She came about in the post war years and of course demonstrated lots of bright and innovative cooking, such as dyeing eggs blue and mashed potatoes green to bring glamour into people’s lives after the drab war years. But she did demonstrate lots of normal cooking, two shows exist on YouTube of her showing how to cook casseroles and the like, but the bbc had a videotape wiping policy back then as tape was expensive, so most of her shows no longer exist that would show that she was a very competent cook and champion of the housewife and budgets etc.

Reading about her life and a bit between the lines, she had an incredibly hard beginning, she was born in 1909 and had to survive in a world where women were not given a shit about, I think she embellished a lot of her stories, but she was widowed young and had to take on lots of jobs to survive, had to leave two kids behind, and also had to leave one son locked in a bedsit to go out and work, no social security in those days. She may seem harsh to modern audiences and a bit of a joke, but those women were hard and had seen a lot, my nan was in an unmarried mothers clinic in the 30s and treated like shit for getting pregnant out of wedlock, bloody hardcore and incredible, just like Fanny! Fanny used to light her cigs off the gas cookers and swear like a sailor apparently 😂

Just looked her up on Wikipedia. Her dad was a gambler and mum was an extravagant spender. They used to constantly move around the country to escape creditors, until they caught up with them. She then was destitute for ten years, selling cleaning products door to door. Poor woman.

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 23/11/2024 17:46

There was an episode where she was showing how to cook a roast dinner for guests. In those days it was live or all one take. As she pulled the chicken out of the oven it fell on the floor. She looked up at the camera and said ‘remember, you are alone in your own kitchen’, picked up the chicken, dusted it off and put it on the plate.

CherryVanillaPie · 23/11/2024 17:48

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 23/11/2024 17:46

There was an episode where she was showing how to cook a roast dinner for guests. In those days it was live or all one take. As she pulled the chicken out of the oven it fell on the floor. She looked up at the camera and said ‘remember, you are alone in your own kitchen’, picked up the chicken, dusted it off and put it on the plate.

😁

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/11/2024 17:52

She was "of her time" as her make-up, frocks and approach to hygeine show. But she was so much more than that. She was one of only a handful of women on television, and she was powerful!

Then there were the recipes. Britain was only coming out of rationing. Her OTT approach was mindblowing.🤯

Women loved it.🤩

toomuchicecream · 23/11/2024 17:58

Apparently my late aunt and her class of fellow students from Battersea School of Home Economics went to see a live show she did and they were all so disgusted at her lack of hygiene they walked out and refused to return!

bringbacksideburns · 23/11/2024 18:14

She’s fascinating. Certainly a one off. Julia Davis did a wonderful drama on her a couple of years back. She was a tough old bird! But think her childhood was a bit odd so that probably shaped her.

She was basically the trail blazer for cookery shows. The way they presented food back then was weird - she was very into her food colourings and piped mash potato. I’m off to watch her on YouTube.

ginasevern · 23/11/2024 18:14

@TooBigForMyBoots

"She was "of her time" as her make-up, frocks and approach to hygeine show."

Well, naturally what she wore reflected the time she lived in which will be said about us in 50 years time. However, I've no idea why you think that people were inherently unhygienic in the 50's, 60's or 70's. If anything they were far more scrupulous. There were fewer products and gimmicks available so genuine elbow grease was applied, and women tended to be housewives so there was a lot more cleaning in general. In fact Fanny Craddock's hygiene was the subject of humour and disdain in her day.

ASH2755 · 23/11/2024 18:21

That's not a very nice thing to say, is it?

soupfiend · 23/11/2024 18:22

cookiebee · 23/11/2024 17:09

The thing is about Fanny is that she has an almost mythical like status, the surviving footage of her, like the Christmas episodes which are generally laughed at by modern audiences are viewed through a modern lense. She was in her 70s at that point, people laugh at her frocks and penciled on eyebrows, but all old ladies back then looked like that when they were dolled up, they were young in the 20s, 30s, 40s, they had all plucked away their eyebrows and drawn them back on decades ago, it was the fashion.

She came about in the post war years and of course demonstrated lots of bright and innovative cooking, such as dyeing eggs blue and mashed potatoes green to bring glamour into people’s lives after the drab war years. But she did demonstrate lots of normal cooking, two shows exist on YouTube of her showing how to cook casseroles and the like, but the bbc had a videotape wiping policy back then as tape was expensive, so most of her shows no longer exist that would show that she was a very competent cook and champion of the housewife and budgets etc.

Reading about her life and a bit between the lines, she had an incredibly hard beginning, she was born in 1909 and had to survive in a world where women were not given a shit about, I think she embellished a lot of her stories, but she was widowed young and had to take on lots of jobs to survive, had to leave two kids behind, and also had to leave one son locked in a bedsit to go out and work, no social security in those days. She may seem harsh to modern audiences and a bit of a joke, but those women were hard and had seen a lot, my nan was in an unmarried mothers clinic in the 30s and treated like shit for getting pregnant out of wedlock, bloody hardcore and incredible, just like Fanny! Fanny used to light her cigs off the gas cookers and swear like a sailor apparently 😂

I think at a time when women didnt have the empowerment they do today and were expected to be meek and quiet, I admire someone who took telly by storm in that way. Who says women or TV presented in fact have to be 'likeable'. so what if she was 'frightful' as many here have described her, who says that has to be the blueprint for women in the media or women at all actually

She presumably made good telly and had some control in her life that was warranted. Its a shame most posters (who I presume are women) cant see past unfashionable frocks and food to ridicule her.

ASH2755 · 23/11/2024 18:24

Oh no. I thought only men did that! You don't think ........?

soupfiend · 23/11/2024 18:26

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 22/11/2024 03:41

My late Godfather was a lighting tech for the BBC and used to do her programme. He said she was a nightmare to work with as she interfered with every aspect of the show. She was aware she had small eyes and used to bark at him to ‘bash it in my eyes darling’, meaning to light her face to the max. 😂

And again this sort of narrative that she was interfering

God forbid the star of the show want some control over what is being done. She was probably the only or one of a couple of women in the entire crew, all these men viewing her as 'interfering'.

All these uppity women just need to pipe down!

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 23/11/2024 18:27

ASH2755 · 23/11/2024 18:24

Oh no. I thought only men did that! You don't think ........?

Did what?

Gruffalowings · 23/11/2024 18:32

I wonder if her bossy style was actually an instructional style - her communication is phenomenal given that she is cooking live.

But my home every teachers were just like this, and I don’t remember them fondly.

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Vitriolinsanity · 23/11/2024 18:36

Georgyporky · 21/11/2024 19:42

She was "of her time" - so is dated. So is Delia.

You take the Delia comment back! Grin

I swear to God everything I cook be Delia is a triumph.

My dad made my wedding cake using her recipe.

My chicken liver pate won second place at the Ploughing Competition.

The winner was a great and lovely friend. I still believe it was fixed as her husband owns a size gigantic farm. Love ya C xxx

ASH2755 · 23/11/2024 18:36

Drop food on the floor and pick it up again.