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Food folklore

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AllieDeCorbeau · 28/08/2024 17:49

Hello,
I am wondering if anybody has any food folklore to share? Or any related to sewing, spinning wool, weaving, etc...
i'm doing research for a fiction book. It takes place in Britain before the start of World War II. I know there was some folklore about never giving your husband a perfectly knitted sweater lest he run of in it.

so I'm looking for this kind of stuff but around food. Even if you have one that you don't think was widespread, I would love to hear it.

thank you in advance

OP posts:
spikeandbuffy24 · 29/08/2024 11:43

Coins in Christmas pudding
Wishbone
Carrots make you see in the dark

senua · 29/08/2024 11:50

Clawdy · 29/08/2024 10:54

My gran said never bring elderflower leaves or berries into the house as it meant death for any mother in the house! A few years later someone told me the old name for elderflower was "Mother-will-die"!

As a maker of elderflower wine and jelly, I thought that this didn't sound right! It sounds like Gran caught a chinese whisper.
Mother-will-die is, apparently, Cow Parsley. It's given its gruesome name to stop their children picking it or (more to the point) similar-looking, poisonous umbellifers e.g. hemlock

Clawdy · 29/08/2024 11:52

Ah, my gran did get very mixed up! Just remember her yelling at us for bringing those berries into the house!

Andthereitis · 29/08/2024 12:09

Throwing salt over your shoulder if you spill some.

senua · 29/08/2024 12:18

Clawdy · 29/08/2024 11:52

Ah, my gran did get very mixed up! Just remember her yelling at us for bringing those berries into the house!

There's a whole new interesting sub-plot, OP: garbled folklore!
As with any information, it pays to check your sauces sources.
Grin

25thCenturyQuaker · 29/08/2024 12:21

I don’t know if this will be of any interest, but my grandma used to cover all the mirrors and make sure any silverware was put away during thunderstorms, in case they “drew the lightning”. This was in Yorkshire, in the 60s.

CocoapuffPuff · 29/08/2024 12:33

You have to tell your bees that a family member has died, so the hives are covered in black cloth.

Christmas pudding should only be stirred clockwise.

To cure a cold, put raw onion slices inside your socks, against the soles of your feet, overnight. Peg on nose optional.

Porridge should be stirred with a spurtle, not a spoon.

Tdp123 · 29/08/2024 13:33

Always crush your eggshells (when you have finished with the,) or witches will use them as boats and will cause storms at sea.

Never pick blackberries after Michaelmas as the devil has pissed on them.

Always ask the witch's permission before harvesting elder berries.

nameXname · 29/08/2024 17:13

If you take the last slice of bread or cake, you'll get a handsome husband. One of my aunts, who'd be close to 100 now if she were still alive, used to say this.

Bread baked at Easter was holy and would last for a long time.

Garlic keeps vampires away.

The number of pips you find when you cut open an apple forecasts how many children you might have.

A very, very ancient superstition to do with threads is that when a woman was giving birth, all the knots in her house were untied to make sure that nothing held up the delivery.

Re clothes -'blue and green should never be seen except upon a fairy queen'.

And re bridesmaids and their clothes: bridesmaids were originally young women dressed in the same way as the bride, so as to confuse any evil spirits wanting to harm her.

Re plants, it was very unlucky to bring hawthorn (aka 'may') into the house, because spirits - even the 'good' ones were perilous - lived in thorn trees.

Planting a rowan tree at your door/gate kept witches away.

UtterlyOtterly · 29/08/2024 18:06

lanadelgrey The dairy maid one appears in Tessa of the D'Urbervilles.

Women would deliberately make a mistake in a patchwork quilt as apparently only god can be perfect.

ThreeFeetTall · 29/08/2024 18:11

Put coin(s) in the Christmas pudding then the person that gets that slice will have good fortune. We had silver charms for the pudding too (a bit like the monopoly pieces) with different meanings but not sure if they were an old tradition or not.

And yes stirring the pudding a certain way when you make your wish.

sashh · 30/08/2024 05:58

spikeandbuffy24 · 29/08/2024 11:43

Coins in Christmas pudding
Wishbone
Carrots make you see in the dark

Not pre WWII.

The carrots being good for your sight was WWII propaganda to hide the fact the UK had radar. Carrots were one food that grew easily in the UK and were not rationed so people did eat a lot of them.

@AllieDeCorbeau when I was a kid there were not many pumpkins around so lanterns were made from swede. Swede is so much harder to carve.

Also I think in England there was an association of Halloween being celebrated by Catholics and therefore was something to not do if you were protestant.

OfficerChurlish · 30/08/2024 06:31

My grandmother said that her mother (born around 1900) followed the (possibly specifically Scottish?) rule that you use black pepper on red meat, and use white pepper on fish, chicken, and pork/ham. The logic was aesthetic - use the kind of salt that won't show up; you do not want black pepper showing up like little bugs on a pale background.

Working class people in Scotland typically ate a lot of fish and a little poultry and pork/ham and not much red meat in the 30s through 50s and in other times when the economy was challenging, so if they followed the rules they ate very little black pepper. Recently, it's been established that all of the peppers are useful in different ways, but black pepper had special effects to combat arthritis, and so people who avoided it because they ate little to no red meat may have suffered more from this ailment than if they'd just black peppered everything that needed pepper.

Ilovetowander · 30/08/2024 06:52

cheese in the morning is like gold, cheese for dinner like silver and cheese for supper is like lead
Am trying to remember more

Mishmashs · 30/08/2024 07:12

Fascinated by the stuff not to make while on your period. Seems like a convenient way to not have to slave over a hot oven to me!

I can’t think of anything but my granny used to peel all our apple peel off in one go and we’d throw it over our shoulder and the letter it closest resembled was the first letter of the name of the man you would marry.

WiseBrownOwl · 30/08/2024 07:20

Rub a cut potato on a stye.

whojamaflip · 30/08/2024 07:22

Eating cheese before bed will give you nightmares

There were loads more when I was growing up but I can't remember - I shall ask my mum if she can remember any more.

soupfiend · 30/08/2024 07:30

Ive heard of lots of these too, particularly involving salt, curly hair from eating crusts, rhymes about who your husband will be, throwing salt over your shoulder, apple seeds growing in your stomach

Would also add that I was told that the end of a cucumber is poisonous. I still cut the end off now for no purpose whatsoever!

soupfiend · 30/08/2024 07:31

Yes and the dandelions causing you to wet the bed, eating cheese and nightmares and onions on a sock to cure a cold.

SusanSHelit · 30/08/2024 07:37

An Irish one but you cut a cross into your soda bread before you bake it to let the fairies /devil out

MagpiePi · 30/08/2024 08:08

Never stir anything with a knife - Stir with a knife, stir up strife.
Also it is good luck if you put a kitchen knife down and it happens to sit with the sharp side of the blade pointing up.
My ex and his family all used to do the never passing salt directly thing.
His mum insisted that flat lemonade was good for colds. And that vegetables should be boiled for at least half an hour, and Mr Kipling fruit pies counted as one of your 5 a day 😁

sashh · 30/08/2024 08:56

OfficerChurlish · 30/08/2024 06:31

My grandmother said that her mother (born around 1900) followed the (possibly specifically Scottish?) rule that you use black pepper on red meat, and use white pepper on fish, chicken, and pork/ham. The logic was aesthetic - use the kind of salt that won't show up; you do not want black pepper showing up like little bugs on a pale background.

Working class people in Scotland typically ate a lot of fish and a little poultry and pork/ham and not much red meat in the 30s through 50s and in other times when the economy was challenging, so if they followed the rules they ate very little black pepper. Recently, it's been established that all of the peppers are useful in different ways, but black pepper had special effects to combat arthritis, and so people who avoided it because they ate little to no red meat may have suffered more from this ailment than if they'd just black peppered everything that needed pepper.

Years ago I watched Gary Rhodes cooking salmon and he put salt and black pepper on the skin side and just salt on the other side so for the same reason.

I recently came across not 'canning' when on your period as the food would spoil. Someone said it was because your body has different hormones and that it is only acidic canning.

I don't think we do much canning in the UK, we are more likely to pickle or make chutney.

NormaJoan · 30/08/2024 08:57

Eating fish on a Friday. Is that folklore or religion based? It still prevails though in some places, my mum’s care home and my grandchildren’s schools for example.

sashh · 30/08/2024 09:43

NormaJoan · 30/08/2024 08:57

Eating fish on a Friday. Is that folklore or religion based? It still prevails though in some places, my mum’s care home and my grandchildren’s schools for example.

Religion.

In the RC church all Fridays were (and I think they have changed it back now) days of 'abstinence' i.e. you couldn't eat meat.

It was changed because a rich person could have salmon and oysters but a poor person may have to throw away a perfectly good meal that wouldn't last until the Saturday. Meat included things like suet, lard and gravy.

You were supposed to do a 'penance' instead, but it was re-established for a few reasons I can't be bothered to look up.

I went to an RC school but the cooks were not RC and there was a very tense morning on one of the days of abstinence where the head teacher had to call the bishop for dispensation so that we could eat the school meal that incorporated meat.

Georgyporky · 30/08/2024 10:15

UtterlyOtterly · 29/08/2024 18:06

lanadelgrey The dairy maid one appears in Tessa of the D'Urbervilles.

Women would deliberately make a mistake in a patchwork quilt as apparently only god can be perfect.

Interesting about the quilt.
When I bought a Turkish carpet, I was told there was always a small mistake as only Allah can be perfect