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TooTickyDoves -vegan advice

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moljam · 22/12/2007 09:17

hello-hope you find thread.right my annoying questions!!
mostly its just what to eat questions.like at toddler group ds ends up only eating fruit as nothing else is suitable-what can i take with me,any ideas?
also lunch and dinner ideas,everything really.
have you found a vegan cheese that is actually eadible?hard cheese and a spreadable one?
im finding hidden stuff hard work and im rubbish at label reading,any tips?
think thats it lol!sorry lots of annoying questions!

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needmorecoffee · 22/12/2007 10:04

Biscuits and rice cakes for toddlers. Most biccies are vegan. Or, if you are fluffy lentil eater type, make your own organic biccies
Lunch - sandwhiches? peanut butter, jam, humus, homemade soups.
Dinner - veg curries, mashed pots n vegan shepherds pie
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As for cheese, we use tofutti's spread as a cream cheese substitute and Cheezly mozarella one for pizzas but to be honest, not a hufe fan of either. But they are better than they were 20 years ago when I was first vegan! Smelled and tstaed like rubbery old socks back then.
And, now you can buy vegan organic junk food

TooTickyDoves · 22/12/2007 10:37

We use a lot of oat cakes - on their own, with fruit spread, mini ones dipped in fruit puree for a treat.
Nairns also do ginger ones and berry ones.
Also worth looking at cereal/fruit bars in health food shops. Some are great and some are dire. Grizzly bars and Zap bars are popular here.

For cheese, we use the Redwood Cheezly - mozzarella, gouda and edam all good melted. The non-melting mature cheddar one can be okay in sandwiches with tomato but I go through phases of finding it inedible.

I add lentils to tomato pasta sauces, also soups and stews. Veg stew with dumplings makes a gorgeous winter meal.
(dumplings: 6 oz wholemeal SR flour, rub ib 3oz marge - I use Suma or Pure organic, dairy-free - add water to make dough, make small dumplings, cook in top of stew for 15-20m)
I also make veg pies/pasties.

For meat replacements, our favourites are Fry's sausages/burgers/schnitzels (frozen in Holland & Barrett), Viana/Tofutown various German sausages - YUM - chilled in some health food shops, Redwood Sage and Marjoram sausages and Celebration roast - again, usually in H&B.
Redwood pretend ham/bacon etc are also useful sometimes.
And plain TVP is also good in pasta sauces/shepherds pie.

I used to buy the Tofutti cream cheese but stopped when I realised it contained partially hydrogenated oil.

Soya yoghurt is good - Sojade is better than Alpro, if you can find it. I like the plain one with fruit and maybe a drizzle of honey. Might take some getting used to thoiugh!

For milk, we use Alpro blue (with apple juice and calcium)

Label reading comes with practice - I have been avidly scanning labels for 20 years.

I hope that is helpful - I may think of more later.

Viva have good information and recipes.
Also Parsley Soup for recipes.

Also vegfamily forums, which is American but interesting.

Also this which is beautiful but - be warned - will make you feel quite inadequate!!

needmorecoffee · 22/12/2007 10:47

right. Am inadequate. ds1 (14) takes white bread sandwhiches with vegan chocolate spread plus packet of crisps to school. The same
But he's 14 and refuses anything else.
At home he will eat stuff but he's been fixated on pasta and ketchup for years. Sometimes with baked beans.
I started off so well with a wide variety but when they became teens it all went downhill. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Least dd2 (3) will eat anything that can be mashed. She has Cerebral Palsy but last night had vegan shepherds pie and mashed carrots for tea. Has porridge for brekkie and pot and carrot soup for lunch. Can feel smug about her
dd1 (15) and living elsewhere has started eating meat as her rebellion. Refuses organic meat and insists on the worst stuff you can find, like salami. bleurgh.
Parsleysoup is great. Am making the chestnut pufs this morning and was eyeing up the black forest gateau.

moljam · 22/12/2007 11:34

ooh wow thankyou-lots of help.thanks for all suggestions.am interested in trying that yoghurt suggested as ds hates alpro

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TooTickyDoves · 22/12/2007 13:05

Oh, Sojasun is the other yoghurt.

Needmorecoffee, my ds1 (8) has decided he is a meat eater but am hoping it is just a phase....

TooTickyDoves · 22/12/2007 13:06

There is another sort of yoghurt which is sold in individual pots, on the shelf, not chilled, which is iffy. Might be granose?

TooTickyDoves · 22/12/2007 13:13

This is the first time I have had my name in a thread title

needmorecoffee · 22/12/2007 13:27

TooTickyDoves - dd1 tried that when she was about 11 but I said eat what you want outside the house but I'm not having meat in my kitchen. So she did. DS1 is veggie and DS2 vegan. DH veggie and me vegan. So I allow cheese and ugh, cow secretion in the fridge.
DD1 no longer lives with us but with in-laws who think no meal is complete without meat so hopefully she is happy. Caught a glimpse of her in the summer and her skin has gone bad though from a poor diet

TooTickyDoves · 22/12/2007 13:29

Dp eats meat, which complicates things. And the cow stuff - god it smells, doesn't it!

needmorecoffee · 22/12/2007 13:36

I can't tell if cow milk is off or not as it all smells so yucky to me.
Off to make the gateau from parsleysoup.

TooTickyDoves · 22/12/2007 13:40

It's so nice to talk to somebody who doesn't think I'm mad!!
Don't you just hate butter?

needmorecoffee · 22/12/2007 13:46

yup. I just find the idea of drinking the milk of another animal yucky. Heck, I wouldn't drink human milk if a BF friend offered to squirt some in my tea!
And eggs.....

TooTickyDoves · 22/12/2007 13:47

Eggs don't bother me so much - as long as I don't have to eat them.

moljam · 22/12/2007 15:38

my dh eats meat,and dd and ds1 do-they say there have veggie half meaty.when they were weaning age i wasnt confident to cook for them and used jars not thinking eventually id have to learn to cook!only jars available here 6-7 years ago were meaty.as a result both poor eaters!with ds2 i was more confident and decided to bring him up veggie,hes fantastic eater!loves things most children dont such as curries,spinach and olives.at 1 year gp said he was cows milk intolerant so we tried goats milk which has really helped but is hard to get hold of.and i quite fancy idea of going from veggie to vegan,thought we both could as apart from his bottle everything thing else is soya.what age is soya milk ok from?hes 2.really should lose the bottle!

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TooTickyDoves · 22/12/2007 17:06

Soya is okay as a milk substitute from 2.

needmorecoffee · 22/12/2007 17:37

can have soya milk in things once his main nutrition is from food rather than breastmilk/formula. So 2 is fine.
dd is 3 and still drinks from abottle (she has soya formula on prescription cos she is 20 pounds and coming up on 4)
I don't bother telling docs that dd is vegan or they'd have a little turn. Her lightness is from her cerebral palsy and finding eating very hard, rather than veganism. But docs over-react to things with sn kids.
Just made the chestnut puffs for dinner and they are yum

TooTickyDoves · 22/12/2007 22:20
moljam · 23/12/2007 22:13

thanks.he sometimes has 6 80z bottles a day!milk monster.
i was shocked at gp response to ds being veggie.he started questioning me and i thought here we go...
but he said he was interested as hes veggie and wondered about feeding a veggie baby and how i made sure he was getting all he needs!he wanted tips!

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needmorecoffee · 24/12/2007 09:30

I always laugh at the 'how does one feed a veggie baby' type questions. You'd think non-veggie infants were tearing into raw hunks of meat or that babies needed some weird spevial food (although I've met mums convinced babies have to have jarred food cos its 'special baby food')
My lot always ate what we ate, only pureed at first and then mashed and then the same. I don't hold with 'baby food' and thinks it makes them fussy. DD's consulatnt nearly had a turn when I said she eats exactly what we do (only mashed) because he assumed kids with cerebral palsy would be on mashed up carrots or something equally boring. She is 3 I said. She can't really chew but manages veggie shepherds pie, mild chilli etc etc but allmashed up. The other day she had some of that chestnut puff I made followed by apple crumble and vegan cream.
Veggies probably have a better range of nutrients than many meat eaters given that some families live on chips and turkey twizzlers. More alarming to a GP than a well thought about vegan or vegetarian diet.
But I was threatenend with a court order once by a consultant over dd's weight. She's very light (about 20 pounds at 3) but its not cos she's a vegan but because of her CP. Stupid (fat) consultant (not mine thankfully) got bent out of shape and started threatening G-tubes and all sorts. Grrrr

moljam · 24/12/2007 09:37

threatened with court order!!!!!even i know that the children i know with cp arent lighter because of dietstupid consultant!!
i agree with ds2 i know hes getting healthier diet and i know exactly what hes getting from where,with dd and ds1(who i didnt do veggie with as i was to scared to cook and thought id poisen them!)im not as sure and they are much much fussier eaters.i blame the jars as sweet tasting rather than real tasting.
i had complaints about weight with all 3.dd was too small apparently,ds1 too small but not as bad,ds2 too big,now too small-too me he seems huge compared to other 2.the gp is never happy ,too big too small.id imagine even if you had baby that folowed average line in red books theyd be a problem!and they dont take into account im only 5 "2 and weigh just over 6 stone.ds is tall and bigger build.

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needmorecoffee · 24/12/2007 10:24

I just never got my older 3 weighed and avoided the doc/HV. With dd2, cos of her epilepsy/CP we have endless medical types being opinionated. Very fustrating for me. And her anti-epileptics meds are dose weight related so they keep weighing her.

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