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Incomplete cake recipe - what is the missing amount likely to be?

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MenoHiccup · 18/12/2020 20:20

This is a chocolate cake I learned to make as a child. For years I made it without a recipe. I haven't made it for several years, and now I cannot remember the full recipe!

Can you help me? Nothing was weighed, it was all measured using a glass mug we had. What are the forgotten quantities likely to be?

1 block of butter (English, so likely to have been 8oz)
1 mug of cocoa powder
1? mug of sugar

Melt these all gently together in a saucepan over a low heat.

Meanwhile, separate 6 eggs.

When the mixture is melted, remove from the heat and allow to cool a little while you prepare the cake tin.

Beat the 6 yolks into the mixture. Add a teaspoon of vanilla extract.

Gently mix in ???? glasses of self-raising flour.

In a separate bowl, beat the egg whites until they do not move if you turn the bowl over. Fold the cocoa mixture into the egg whites.

Transfer to cake tin and bake at Gas 4 until it passes the skewer test.

I cannot remember the quantities of sugar and flour.

Thoughts?

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sleepyhead · 18/12/2020 20:27

It sort of looks like a flourless chocolate cake recipe so I would say no flour?? But presumably you would have remembered that.

www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/chocolate-recipes/flourless-chocolate-cake/

theconstantinoplegardener · 18/12/2020 20:29

It looks a bit like my boil-and-bake parkin recipe, although that doesn't have so many eggs. This recipe looks similar to yours: www.womensweeklyfood.com.au/recipes/boiled-chocolate-cake-11260
It sounds delicious! I'm going to have to try this myself tomorrow...

Smudgeis13 · 18/12/2020 20:29

In a basic cake recipe, think Victoria Sponge, there is the same quantity of margarine, sugar and flour.

theconstantinoplegardener · 18/12/2020 20:31

But as you use a whole cup of cocoa powder in your recipe, I'd maybe only use two cups of flour, not three as in the Australian WW recipe.

MinesAPintOfTea · 18/12/2020 20:32

My standard cake is equal weights of butter, self raising flour, sugar and eggs.

But in your place I’d start with those ratios on a 1 egg quantity, make it and see how it is different to what you hoped. Then try in turn 25% more and less flour and sugar. That’s 5 eggs worth of mix, and most of them will be edible, at least if you pour custard over them.

sleepyhead · 18/12/2020 20:33

Neither of those involve separating eggs though. It's the whisking the whites that makes it sound like a flourless cake as those use the whisked whites as the raising agent.

MenoHiccup · 18/12/2020 20:35

Definitely flour in the recipe.

For a basic sponge cake, 6 eggs would call for 12oz of butter, so I don't think the proportions are the same. Also the texture wasn't the same as a conventional sponge - it was much softer and richer, and came out darker than a chocolate Victoria sponge.

I shall check out the Australian recipe.

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MenoHiccup · 18/12/2020 20:36

Though TBF I could be misremembering the amount of butter! I'm 100% certain of the number of eggs.

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MenoHiccup · 18/12/2020 20:38

@sleepyhead

Neither of those involve separating eggs though. It's the whisking the whites that makes it sound like a flourless cake as those use the whisked whites as the raising agent.
Perhaps it wasn't SR flour? If we used plain flour, the beaten egg whites would be necessary for the cake to rise.
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DelphiniumBlue · 18/12/2020 20:44

My chocolate cake( real Red Devil's chocolate food cake)recipe uses 1/3 cup cocoa, 1 1/2 cups of flour and anywhere between 1/2 - 1 cup of sugar, depending on taste. That recipe also uses 1/2 cup butter and 2 eggs, plus a cup of milk.
It is quite dense, I'd say a bit heavier than a normal sponge cake. It comes out very dark brown, and I reckon if you are using a whole cup of cocoa, you'll need 2-3 cups of flour. With 6 eggs, that is going to be a big cake!

MinesAPintOfTea · 18/12/2020 20:48

I have a chocolate fondant recipe that uses flour and whisked egg whites. Here: www.gordonramsayrestaurants.com/recipes/chocolate-fondants/

ClearingSpaceOnTheTrophyShelf · 18/12/2020 21:18

Hash?

MenoHiccup · 18/12/2020 21:40

No
Grin

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PickAChew · 18/12/2020 21:57

The closest I've found is a chiffon cake. No butter but then it uses actual chocolate plus oil for lightness.

A full mug of cocoa is going to be very bitter.

Incomplete cake recipe - what is the missing amount likely to be?
MenoHiccup · 18/12/2020 22:53

A full mug of cocoa is going to be very bitter

1 cocoa to 1.5 sugar is the perfect balance in chocolate drink, to my mind. 1:1 if I don't fancy it sweet. So the full mug of chocolate should be good if balanced by at least 1 mug of sugar.

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MenoHiccup · 18/12/2020 22:55

It certainly didn't have the lightness of a chiffon cake. This chocolate cake was a moist, heavy sponge.

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FrenchBoule · 18/12/2020 23:33

I’ve never seen a recipe for a cake that uses a full mug of cocoa powder.

1 cocoa to 1.5 sugar might be perfect for a drink- what unit you have in mind?

Chocolate is not equal to cocoa powder.

MenoHiccup · 18/12/2020 23:49

By volume. 1 generous tablespoon of cocoa for a mug, 4 for a 1L thermos, 1 cup for crockpot-full. We like it strong Grin

But not necessarily, I suppose, for a cake.

I shall have to do MinesaPint's suggestion and try lots of 1 egg versions.

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Bargebill19 · 19/12/2020 00:40

The middle YouTube recipe sounds exactly the same.

Incomplete cake recipe - what is the missing amount likely to be?
MenoHiccup · 19/12/2020 01:04

Not the same cake. That's a fatless whisked sponge. A very nice cake, but definitely light and refined - not gooey chocolatey indulgence.

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Bargebill19 · 19/12/2020 01:50

Bum!

Bargebill19 · 19/12/2020 02:24

What about a type of chiffon cake recipe?

TheRealBoswell · 19/12/2020 02:36

What about this recipe?

MenoHiccup · 19/12/2020 07:58

That recipe is the cause of my current problem. It replaced the chocolate cake I used to make. It is utter, lush decadence. But my dc has specifically requested the 'old' chocolate cake!

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MenoHiccup · 19/12/2020 08:07

@DelphiniumBlue does your Red Devil recipe use food colouring?

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