Can’t get dried milk for Panasonic bread maker.

[HappydaysArehere]

Has anyone experimented with leaving it out or substituting fresh milk?
The French bread doesn’t require the milk powder but nearly every other type of dough appears to require it. I used to make pizza dough but that requires dried milk.

As we are all trying not to waste flour I would be grateful for any input on the subject.

None of my recipes in the official book mention milk in any form, apart from milk bread obviously.

I'm currently using the most faff free recipe of:

400g strong flour
3/4 teaspoon dried yeast
1 teaspoon sugar
1teaspoon salt
15g butter
285 mls water.

basic small loaf, light crust, takes 4 hours.

I chuck in milk if it needs to be used up but otherwise I don’t bother. I’m using less yeast and using the a French dough setting for better flavour.

I see you successfully made it without the milk - I have a Panasonic too and have never added the milk powder as the booklet didn't give a good reason to use it.

This is what is currently using up my bread flour supplies. The kids (mostly adults!) love it.

I know a lot of bread maker recipes include it but really, milk doesn't belong in bread.

I use HFW's basic recipe in my Panasonic machine, it's lovely and stays fresh a few days too. 200g strong flour, 200g plain flour tsp salt, tsp yeast, 280ml water. That's what bread is. It shouldn't have anything else.

That's what bread is. It shouldn't have anything else. That's a bit extreme, don't you think?😬

No seeds, cheese, chocolate, cinnamon and raisin, garlic....? 😱

I am definitely going to try using half plain flour though. I'd like to know what difference it makes.

No rosemary focaccia, no buttery croissants...😞
I have loads of gluten free flour that I bought ages ago - might start mixing flours to use it up.

I wouldn't recommend using fresh milk instead - there are substances in fresh milk that would impede the action of the yeast, which isn't there in dry milk.

Fresh milk has worked fine for me.😏

Interesting to read this. We have a machine that we inherited from friends that we use to make gf bread for DS. Since weve got nothing better to do I might try some other bread.

Does anyone know if the recipes using butter need melted butter or is cold fine?

Thanks

Cold butter is fine. Bread is better when the dough only cycle is used and then shaped for the second rise as normal and baked in the oven - if you can be arsed. Initially though just getting fresh bread is brilliant - the shape and the paddle hole eventually irritate you to moving on with your journey.
Good luck!

the shape and the paddle hole eventually irritate you to moving on with your journey.

Not here!

For my machine, it says that they write powdered milk because if you use the delayed start you don’t want the milk sitting there for 12 hours at room temperature

But I don’t delay the start so I use regular milk.