are the Birds Eye adverts right - am i better off feeding DD frozen veg than fresh?

[AitchTwoOh]

i do try to buy at the farmers' market to keep our veggies local, but quite a few come from the fruit shop via Spain, italy etc.

i'm really interested to know if i woudl be better off buying frozen than non-local fresh?

please don't ask me to get a veggie box, though. i used to get one, couldn't stand the turnip in the end...

moondog, how can frozen UK beans not be better than beans flown in from eg Kenya?

Fair enoiugh if they are frozen in this country yes.

Gosh, moondog!

I shall scurry down to Sainsburys forthwith and check the labels

(Actually not Sainsburys, because ours has no sodding frozen beans which regularly makes me v cross, but I will read labels elsewhere and let you know!)

JanH sounds simialr to mine but my house is to the south

Aitch, have you heard of this lot ?

I was thinking about it as I'm sure I could get dh to do the 8 hours digging or whatever...

Thing is though, what would you get at this time of year in Scotland? Isn't this the season where in ye olden days you were subsisting on oatmeal and herrings and the odd potato if you were lucky .

Ah - in the summer your yard will get a lot more hours of sun than ours then, MrsW.

I did try tomatoes in gro-bags one year, but it wasn't a good summer and by Aug-Sept we were down to hardly any sun from mid-afternoon onwards. It's frustrating.

I wish i could garden.Am sadly shit.
Very jealous of those with the ole' magic.

I was wondering about this today. Used up a 8 day old leak and though "Is there any point?"

it's like that other thread about giving up trying to get your kids to like some foods, moondog. i just don't like turnip. if you served me it at your house i would eat it, but if you gave me a choice of that or the kale i'd gladly take the kale. thanks for the link, shona, am off to peruse.

You so bloody would like my turnip.
With a side order of prawns.

well clearly that's where i've been going wrong, moony. silly me, thinking that coriander, chilli and lime was the way to go.
do you know what? i took the bag out, defrosted it and was then seized with a panic that our freezer had partially defrosted aobut a month ago while they were in there so i, er, threw them out. but another day i will buy some and cook them. can you buy shell-on frozen, is that what you do?

Oh Aitch, week after week of kale would do your head in. Especially black kale, which tastes nice but looks like sea weed . A nice basic turnip would be a god send after the amount of bloody kale I have had

Janh I don't know detail about Kenyan beans, though transport is only one part of the impact of food. It's the one that the BBC and greens have been duped into obsessing about though.

A good % of the impact of growing things is fertilizer. Not only does this suck in energy like a drain, it drains off into water with quite horrible results. Subsidised Western farmers use it copiously, as well as pesticides and truly enormous pollution belching tractors and of course 4WD vehicles.
Many crops can only be grown in Britain in the seasons that people want them by highly artificial means. These include covering the entire field with transparent plastic, growing under glass in heated greenhouses and yet more chemicals.

Given that Kenya has a different climate, it's farmers don't get EU subsidised chemicals, and often can't afford heavy machinery the total impact of their food may well be lower.
Also you have to ask yourself what effect you'd like your spending to have ?
A new well for a Kenyan farmer or a new Range Rover for a British one ?

This article looks quite interesting and talks about the difference in vitamin content between fresh, frozen and canned food.