You know how we aren't supposed to eat tinned tomatoes?

[originalbiglymavis]

Baked beans? What about bakes beans? Can you get nice ones in a jar or carton?

Where do you think bottled water comes from? Half the time its just branded tap water but even mineral water comes from the ground having been filtered through shite, dead animals and who knows what else on it's long journey through the water cycle.

Oh god we get through 2 or 3 tins a week .. Italian based here ! from passata ( bottle) to fine chopped .. Doomed thats what we all are

No the earth pixies filter it through volcanoes. Everyone knows that...

There's a lot of hooha about the plastics used in bottles too. I don't drink tap mainly because it's bloody awful in London. I do in Scotland though.

I read about the tinned tomatoes thing years ago and although I thought "nahhhh that's a load of BS" I think it did something subconsciously as I haven't bought tinned for YEARS. Only cartons now.
As for beans, no way I could live without them. I'm pretty sure you'll be fine but if DH is super paranoid about it you can get the plastic fridge packs of Heinz now. Problem solved!

I have read they taste metallic so should buy tinned plum tomatoes and chop them yourself.

An Italian friend (a dietician) says not to buy the whole ones but the ready chopped ones. I haven't asked her why.

Yes, I would consider not drinking tap water for the reasons you gave an anxiety thing. It's not normal to worry about stuff to such an extent. Sorry for showing concern OP, how fucking dare I.

I'm hardly sitting in a bunny suit taping clingfilm over the windows and wrapping tinfoil around my head.

As a qualified therapist, I like to think I can recognise anxiety when I meet it. And trust me, I have (successfully) treated some very anxious people.

if i buy tinned tomatoes I buy the whole ones....and chop them myself, I always imagine the ready chopped ones are the ones that have icky bits an bruises on, ....they chop out the bad bits and then chop up the rest of the manky tomato and send it to the chopped tomato tin factory.

Yes it's the BPA in the cans which is the issue. Generations of Italians wouldn't have been exposed to BPA as it's only been commercially used since the 1950s. Just sayin.

We eat loads of tinned toms! I buy the whole ones, put them in a bowl and cut the manky ends off and then squiiiiish with my hand to 'chop'. Quite satisfying.

We eat loads of tinned tomatoes! Use them all the time in the food I make and there's nothing better for lunch than whole plum tomatoes on toast.

I don't think there's anything wrong with them when you open them but am aware that you're not meant to store a half open can in the fridge for later use - you're meant to decant the leftover toms/beans etc into a tub with a lid.

You're not supposed to store any food in an open tin but anything tomatoey is worse- if you've got toms, beans, peas, whatevers left over stick it in a tub in the fridge.

Also the FSA says BPA in cans is not a health concern.

Thats very old advice, back when tins used to be actually made of tin. Thw problem was oxidisation, but now they aren't tin that isn't an issue.

I'm very old

Me too, that's how I know

Is there a possible linguistic issue with the US too - their canned goods tend to be what we would call bottled, so in glass jars rather than tins.

It's not nonsense. There is a chemical used in lining of the tins and boxes that leaks into food and possibly may cause problems. Can't remember the name.
It will be phased out soon(ish).
I have known it for a while but only in the last month or so started buying stuff in glass jars instead of tins.
Shame about the tomatoes though.

We live on tinned toms in this house - they're very cheap, versatile, and healthy. I don't think the BPA is a significant health issue - even if a study was to show that they raise the risk of something by a fractionally small amount, that doesn't make them unacceptably dangerous. Nothing we eat is 100% "safe".

Acting on US advice if you don't live in the US is a bit pointless. I have an American acquaintance who lives in the EU and keeps warning her "neighbours" about the dangers of fluoride in tap water, hormones in beef and ammonia in burgers, none of which apply to them, since none of it is relevant this side of the pond.

everything is dangerous and the whole world is trying to kill you - too much sunshine = malignant melanoma, too little = vit D deficiency, MS, etc; no tomatoes = vitamin deficiencies, exposure to regular air in the atmosphere = masses of chemicals and pathogens, crossing the road, not crossing the road, eating meat, not eating meat, using bubble bath, soap, etc
You can buy passata in glass bottles quite easily but I really don't think tinned tomatoes are hazardous to health any more than daily living would be, and the health benefit from the tomatoes themselves likely outweighs any effects of packaging

In answer to OP original question, you can get massive big plastic jar of Heinz Baked Beans. You can store in fridge once open.

And Sainsbos do cartons of chopped tomatoes.

However I do agree you're talking bollox OP no matter how many relatives and friends you have in the U.S. and Italy who claim to know the TRUTH.

I wonder what sort of coating cartons have? I'd rather use recyclable cans than more cartons going to landfill, or those plastic pots.

OP look inside the next tin that you open.
There is a white coating inside the tin.
This prevents the food from reacting with the metal in the tin.

Plastics do not biodegrade. They end up in the habitats of marine animals and poison and choke them.
Use recyclables whenever you can, tinned tomatoes aren't poisoning anyone.

I think the issue with BPA used to be that it was more likely to leach out of its material into whatever was in the container when being heated and had some endocrine disrupting potential for either young infants or developing fetuses - pliable materials such as soft plastic that are then heated were the main thing I think (eg the baked beans in the plastic pots in the microwave)- but not aware of proper evidence or indeed of the chemical composition of baked bean pots