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unicef baby friendly weaning

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pesme · 19/06/2004 00:10

Hi, Just listened to a womans hour article about unicef baby friendly weaning. Has anyone tried this? Where can I find more info about this?

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pesme · 19/06/2004 00:11

sorry cannot get the hang of this link thing. Try again here

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marsup · 19/06/2004 00:28

Pesme, thanks for posting this - I was wondering whether or not to buy Annabel Karmel's book and the recipes here have convinced me I should. But are there any more details other than the first page? I can't seem to find the rest of the article.

pesme · 19/06/2004 00:32

Hi, Found this . Basically the idea is that your baby eats what you eat, chopped up. Cuts out puree stage and apparently promotes good eating habits (as long as you aren't eating macdonalds every night one assumes). Annabel Karmel sounded really p*ssed off about the whole business.

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aloha · 19/06/2004 00:33

I heard it to, and was interested. It certainly sounds simple. I thought Annabel Karmel sounded really defensive, unsurprisingly!

pesme · 19/06/2004 00:37

Just borrowed an Annabel Karmel book and it is fabulous in lots of ways but I found the glamour puss picture of her and her family at the back v. off putting. I really like the sound of this kind of weaning.

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SueW · 19/06/2004 02:40

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Marina · 19/06/2004 12:22

Oh, this has cheered me up no end. We keep to a low-salt diet anyway and dd has basically been on the Unicef diet since she was 7 months old. Her current favourite is spinach and lamb korma. I think this time round I have cooked three lots of special food for her...thanks for this Pesme. Sue, how is dd doing at the moment?

elliott · 19/06/2004 12:46

Well, it all sounds very interesting, in theory, but I'm afraid it falls in the category of great idea, impossible to implement for me. I also think some of the concerns about spoon feeding babies are overblown (like the bit about not knowing what in your mixed puree has caused a reaction - surely harder when they're grabbing god knows what from your plate?) - personally I am finding ds2 (6.5 months) copes far better with lumpy spoon feeds (he's already grabbing the spoon and sucking the food off) than with finger foods (again, he's very keen, but most things I've tried so far end up getting stuck in his mouth in a huge wadge, and I've had some scary moments with pasta and carrots!).
I've never found this idealised scenario of 'let baby join in while you're eating' to work for me - we usually eat when ds2 is asleep! And I don't think much of what we eat has the requisite shape or texture - and it tends to have more salt in than I am happy for ds2 to be getting.
But of course the principle of eating 'normal' family foods is great...one day I'll get there, and I'm not going to feel guilty in the meantime!

Piffleoffagus · 19/06/2004 13:28

WE had to do purees with dd as she was a top level gagger until 11 months, but it was pretty much our food minced or blended at the table from 7 mths onwards.DD was really only weaned onto root veges at 6 months...
She has her own frozen cubes for lunch now as we are on weightwatchers and dd has high calorie needs due to genetic condition.
But she adores eating with us, baguettes, soups, curries, steak, chicken, veges...
easier too! and it makes you watch what you eat too...

prettycandles · 19/06/2004 17:31

It sounded to me like saying something for the sake of having something to say! Just laying down a new rule - going from one extreme (sloppy rice porridge) to the other. Nonsense really. I never bothered with the rice stage and gave my babies finger foods virtually from day one of weaning. Ds did once choke on a lump, went blue and I had to get him out of the chair to turn him upside down and thump him, but fortunately just turning him dislodged the lump and he was ok.

Far more important, IMO, is the business of when you start weaning and giving single foods at first so that you can be sure about any reactions.

I think that anyone with any sense will listen to this new notion, take whatever ideas they want from it, and go off and do whatever works for them.

Did you all really sterilise EVERYTHING until ONE YEAR? Exactly.

busybee123 · 19/06/2004 17:35

quick question.....does anybody else think that annabel karmel uses every pot and pan in the kitchen? and all at the same time?!?!?!?

pesme · 04/07/2004 00:26

just thought I would bump this to see if I get a few more opinions.

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marsup · 04/07/2004 00:43

I agree, glamourpuss picky of Annabel K is very offputting. I'm grateful to her for explaining I could cook dried fruit for ds though - he was ecstatic. I don't know about giving him finger food from what we normally eat: we normally eat things that don't resemble finger food, and I suspect spinach and lamb korma would fall into that category. I have the opposite problem now - dh has expressed a desire for more purees in his own diet!!! (maybe jealous of ds?)

vivie · 05/07/2004 00:50

What if your child has allergies? I try really hard to have ds eat what dh and I eat but as he is very allergic to egg and dairy it's not always practical. I even started eating meat after 17 years of being a veggie so we could share more meals, but I'm not prepared to give up cheese and eggs etc. I have one of the Annabel Karmel books but not many of her receipes are egg and dairy free. Eating out is possible but I have to be prepared and phone the restaurant in advance etc so we can't be very spontaneous and I must admit that I envy other families for this. I would love us to be able to eat everything together.

pesme · 15/07/2004 22:21

ok i am bumping this as I am starting solids this weekend. Anyone got any more advice or experience on this approach to feeding. Is my idea of sticking some batons of cooked carrot in front of her completely barking?

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frogs · 16/07/2004 19:49

Okay, since no-one else has answered, I'll give it a whirl. I'm at a similar stage to you as dd2 is 7 months, and was bfed exclusively till 6 months.

I don't think your idea of cooked carrot sticks is barmy, let us know how you get on. BUT the transition between bfeeding and 'real' food, whether purees or chunkier finger foods is not as obvious as it seems, since it requires completely different tongue action. dd2, bless her, spent the first week of weaning pushing everything straight back out, simply because she couldn't work out how to use her tongue to move it to the back of her mouth ready for swallowing.

With proper solid foods, like carrot sticks, you have additional problems inasmuch as they have to keep hold of it long enough to 'eat' it. I would have thought there is also a risk, if they are soft, that the baby will bite a chunk off with its gums and choke, which may freak you out and/or upset the baby.

Also, be warned, IME experience bfed babies show a strong preference for very sweet food, so carrot sticks may not cut it.

Since dd2 is my 3rd child I'm quite lazy about making stuff for her. Things I know she'll always eat are petit filou yoghurts and an instant rice porridge called Cerelac (made by Nestle, tragically -- how un-pc can you get?) Having said that, I've never found that the quantity of solids consumed at teatime had any direct link with sleep duration, so it probably doesn't matter from that point of view.

Ds was also quite conservative in his early tastes (banana, banana and banana), but on holiday aged 9 months discovered tapas in a big way. He snarfed chorizo, olives, squid, artichokes, at the age where most of my friends' babies were still eating glop from jars.

Summary of my ramblings -- go for it, but be prepared to change your plans as you go along. They'll wean themselves off bmilk sometime before starting school whatever you do.

pesme · 17/07/2004 12:48

thanks frogs, tbh I am probably going to wing it. all the books seem to assume you start at 16wks. chickened out of starting today, maybe tomorrow....

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hercules · 17/07/2004 12:54

I found the bounty book you get from Boots for weaning was the best as it talks mainly about weaning in terms of 6 months and no other book did this.

Cavy · 17/07/2004 13:07

I started by just mashing down my food (simple veggies) and fed to my babies in tiny tidbits off my fingers. Seemed to work. You know they want it when they start grabbing your fingers to gnaw on whatever is there. Trick to avoid choking and let them learn how to swallow is to go slowly, offer very slowly and too little rather than too much.

I don't have time for Anana Karamel... or whatever her name is.

mears · 17/07/2004 16:22

When I weaned my 4 babies, I started with baby rice for the first 3 (earliest I started was 20 weeks). The foruth babe was weaned at 6 months so we missed out the baby rice completely which was a real bonus. I started with pureed carrot, then potato and carrot then pretty much anything after that. I used packets and jars which were convenient. I also liquidised whatever we were having minus the salt. To be honest I didn't worry too much about it and was certainly not one of those mums who prepared special baby meals from scratch. I think the real terick is to get to as close to 6 months as possible then you are not limited to what you can give so much. Luckily no allergies in my family really so that was not an issue. The more babies I had, the quicker they went onto finger foods. A favourite lunch was cheese on toast. Didn't find it difficult at all.

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