Is organic worth it?

[hercules]

well?

tia

Hiya Tigger, let me be the first to welcome you back.

Do you like IP? Do they do that in the UK? (I might be confused about the term, but do you know what I mean?)

Hope all is well with you-- missed your posts.

i hear what you're saying about organic farmers maybe not knowing as much as a traditional farmer who knows there stuff does. and it sounds like the quality assured thing that you belong to is pretty stringent. but isn't organic just a way of the public being sure about what isn't in their food? i agree that the prices are a disgrace. but i still don't understand why you wouldn't go organic to get the money? i think we'd probably disagree about lots of things in rl (actually maybe not, i don't know why i have that feeling), but i like your passion and love your CAPITAL LETTERS!!! nice to meet you!

And you are one of the reasons I don't believe that organic is the be-all end-all. (Hope you take that for a compliment - it is!)

We moved from almost all inorganic to mostly organic gradually. I was sceptical about the health claims made for organic food and use to harrumph around the supermarket saying 'Where's the inorganic f+veg?' to dh. But I gradually began switching when I found that, at least IMO, many organic products taste better. This happened with cream eggs and yogurt, first. When I began giving dd solids, I did feel queasy about giving her f+veg laden with pesticides and began buying organic mainly for her. Then we started getting f+veg delivered by Abel and Cole and found that a lot of it did taste noticeably better. I also agree with the comments about how you can find you spend less on food than before. Organic chicken also tastes a lot better, but I don't see a difference with other organic meat and so don't buy it.

organic "cream eggs"

Yes, they would be great, wouldn't they

Can't remember where I saw it but recently read an article that said the soil association allows about 19 chemical pesticides and allows some pesticides that are known carcinogenics that are banned in other parts of the world.

Having said that I have bought organic in the past but not sure whether I would now.

Lisa78 picked up on my typo (can you have a Freudian typo?).

I started this thread and would like to add that I didnt bother doing the organic thing with dd- seemed a bit pointless really.

I try to buy locally, and from sources I know -direct from farm, farmers markets (we're lucky enough to have 4 a month within a few miles of us), local shop which makes a point of sourcing locally (sort of farmers market in a high street shop), local butcher using accredited sources, etc rather than organic per se. Some of it does happen to be organic, but it's source and freshness which I tend to take more notice of, and I'd buy fresh local produce from a source I knew, but which wasn't organic, over organic produce from an unknown source every time.

My views in a nutshell, GillW. I used to be more concerned about organic status but now whenever there is a real choice, especially with meat and fruit, I try and buy English produce from local or named farmers/producers. You can't beat Kentish coxes or Solway potatoes (my father successfully persuaded a local supermarket in Carlisle to stock Solway potatoes instead of similar...flown in from Egypt).
The best chicken I have ever tasted is free-range not organic and comes from a farm in Essex - the Poulet d'Or range that Waitrose sell. It is so flavoursome and the leg bones alone tell you that the bird had an energetic and happy life!
I would still only buy organic milk and other dairy produce though.

For those who use Organic Weetabix, do you realise that the grain is imported from Ontario, now although it says that is is governed by the International Organic Folkies, HOW do you know that is IS organic? You don't!!

Organic Dairy produce, well, the difference being is that the cows have to lie on bedded courts instead of slatted sheds, if they get mastitis their milk is held in withdrawal (i think) for 90 days, although the withdrawal of most mastitis drugs is 30 days at most, (used to relief milk cows with DH). I think that basically any drug intervention required on an Organic Farm has to be certified by the Vet, and then drugs can be administered. Many conventional farms use Uddermint for Mastitis, you just rub it into the affected quarter on the coos udder (known as vessel in Scotland).

I don't condem those who are TRULY Orgasmic, but those who are in it for the money make me soooo dammned angry. One problem in Organic farming especially amongst cattle and sheep is Fluke Worm, which if left untreated can result in death, although it can be cured by using dosing stuffs.

Tigger was that deliberate or a freudian slip?

Dinosaur, what dooooooo you mean?????

well spotted, dino.

Does anyone wish their nursery/childminder would use more organic or even just healthy food? How do you persude them to do this?

My friend's nursery fed her 8 month old on Quavers, jam sarnies, jam biscuits and jam doughnuts and they couldn't understand why she was cross. Does anyone have a childminder/nursery who does use organic products?

goldenbrown, our otherwise excellent, caring nursery does not provide organic food and in certain areas (milk, chicken, eggs) it really concerns me. I'm going to raise it with them at the forthcoming Parents' Evening. It's part of one of the biggest national chains, btw - any other Asquith parents out there fancy sending a petition to the Head Office?

I have just cancelled our veg delivery box after 2 weeks as the food is good but just doesn't last.My ds went to my parents for the weekend and so we were eating veg non stop but Fridays stuff was useless by Monday am.Have decided to buy from local organic shop as and when .Such a shame as the potatoes especially were delicious

All animal products I buy are now organic. Because organic meat is more expensive we're eating less overall.

I also now buy organic salmon - expensive and only available in Waitrose at the moment, but we eat it as a treat. I was REALLY shocked when I compared the colour of organic as opposed to the usual farmed salmon.

Yesterday, we ate organic bacon for the first time and were amazed at the difference in taste.

I don't buy organic veg yet (unless its on offer) as my food bill would really rocket.

The thing is, we can just about afford to buy organic, but there are lots of people who are unable to. My Aunt is a pensioner on her own - she'd love to buy organic but just cannot afford to. I do feel this is unfair.

re the salmon: farmed fish is the next mad cow...trust me on this one, you do not want to be eating farmed salmon, and you certainly should not be giving it to your babies imo and salmon isn't the only fish being pumped full of toxic chemicals and dyes (and killing the wild population while it's at it) see this bloody scarey article for why any farmed fish is bad news. it's not a coincidence that fish like salmon and sea bass used to be an expensive treat and now are very cheaply available...