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Help me to help my children eat veg and salad

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justwondering72 · 04/05/2014 13:49

I grew up thinking I hated all veg and salad. It was only in my 20s that I realised that I didn't, it was actually my mum that did. she admitted as much recently, that she hates all veg except potatoes and lentil / carrot soup, and most salad bar some green lettuce and coleslaw type salads covered in mayo / dressing. Growing up, a 'salad' consisted of some ham, grated cheddar and crisps with a big dollop of salad cream. The only veg we ever had were boiled carrots, and those frozen mixtures of carrots / green beans / peas. It was only in my 20s when I went away to Uni and started eating with others that I realised that I actualy loved salads (proper, big, dressed salads) and most veggies - I'd just never ever considered the possibility that they could taste great.

Despite this, I seem to have absorbed all my mothers teachings and am in the process of passing them onto my children - and I don't know how to stop doing this! I seem to have had this basic belief ground into me that eating veg and salad is 'weird' and that no child in their right mind would want to eat them. As a result, I don't think I've presented or offered these foods in a good light - there has been no expectation on my part that the boys would even want to eat or enjoy them.

They are 6 and 3 now. Both BLW, both started off eating most things, both got gradually more fussy as time passed, which I know is normal. Now, DS2 is okay - he'll try most veg that is put in front of him, and is less resistant to trying new foods. But DS1 will basically eat brocolli - and that's it as far as veg and salad goes (unless it's hidden in lasagne etc). Neither of them will touch anything raw - tomatoes, pepper sticks, carrot batons, sweetcorn, mushrooms, green leaves etc. And neither of them will touch any made up salads - coleslaw, egg mayo etc.

I just don't know how to introduce them to these foods. They see DH and I enjoying veg and big salads etc, but are utterly resistant to trying anything from our plates or the serving bowls. We eat together most evenings. DS1 eats lunch at school two days a week and I know he tries new things there. At home he simply will not, and any efforts to get himm to try something new very quickly descend into tears and arguing. They will both eat plenty of fruit. I don't want to get into a battle with either of them over food. I try to serve up most food in serving bowls so they can help themselves (some hope!)I would not insist on a clean plate policy but we can't afford to be offering cherry tomatoes that then get binned every time.

Advice please! Both on ways to offer these foods to them and on getting my head straight on what my expectations of them should be. I am a good cook, I enjoy cooking, I want them to enjoy it too. I don't want them to have to wait until they are 25 to enjoy a salad!

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SlatternMissesherGrumpyCat · 04/05/2014 22:58

I'm watching with interest. I didn't eat much by way of vegetables until my mid twenties. DH and I have always had plenty with most meals. However my DC's are completely vegetable phobic. I have no idea how this happened but it drives me mad when they pick bits out of the pasta sauce or 'green bits' out of their risotto. Arrrghhh.

Huffpot · 05/05/2014 11:07

Also watching with interest as mine refuse all salad veg except for tomatoes!

ManicMinor · 05/05/2014 11:39

My two are not great at eating vegetables, but I've recently had some success with offering them crudités - so sticks of raw carrot, cucumber, pepper, broccoli to dip - they love humous and sour cream so this is the draw. I started with small bread sticks, carrots and cucumber - the bread sticks always go first, then they start on the veg. They don't both eat all, but they're starting to see it as normal.

Other thing I've done is started growing salad, herbs, spring onions, beet root and radish in the garden - they are pretty easy to grow, save lots of money, and the boys seem more inclined to try them.

ManicMinor · 05/05/2014 11:41

Oh and I serve the crudités on a plate in the living room as a kind of starter after school when they're watching TV (not normally allowed) - they are invariably starving, so it's the best chance of them trying stuff.

ManicMinor · 05/05/2014 11:43

Erm, eating in living room not normally allowed as opposed to watching TV! (must read posts to be sure they make sense!!)

qazxc · 05/05/2014 11:48

Involve them in the buying of fruit and veg, like for example getting them to choose what type of veg they would like.
Involving them in cooking/food prep.
If possible getting kids to grow vegetables like a tomato plant or carrots or salad leaves is great to get them eating the stuff.

Blackjackcrossed · 05/05/2014 13:19

Make salads out of cooked veg, broccoli is lovely in a salad. Get them to mix up a salad dressing, you need to taste as you create, mine like doing that.

PunchHouse · 05/05/2014 13:26

If I hadn't been living abroad in a country where children are brought up to like grown up food, I probably would have assumed like you that my DC wouldn't like all sorts of things, but it turns out they do!

What particularly surprised me was green salad. All 3 of them have always loved it, with dressing (I make vinaigrette with balsamic & olive or walnut oil). Young children seem to like the piquant of vinegar. This was a revelation to me!

castlesintheair · 05/05/2014 13:28

Like ManicMinor, I used to serve raw veg as a starter and found they ate it as they were starving. Now they just eat it anyway.

Try more interesting ways of serving it. For example grated carrot with a squeeze of lemon juice, very popular here in France. Cauliflower cheese etc. Get them to help make it.

Don't stress too much. My DS(12) now eats most veg albeit reluctantly and he was a really fussy eater, he just knows it's good for home now.

castlesintheair · 05/05/2014 13:32

Yy PunchHouse, my DCs eat "adult" food and seem to prefer it. Most kids menus are so bland.

LadySybilLikesCake · 05/05/2014 13:35

You can cook veg in soooo many different ways, and each will make them taste different. Take a carrot. You can boil it, and you can boil it with a little orange juice which makes it taste sweet and juicy. You can roast it with some honey or maple syrup, or with a little olive oil. You can also mash it and turn it into soup. Green beans taste better with a little sea salt sprinkled over then, leeks are fab when cooked with a little salt and pepper, and some single cream.

Hugh Fernly whatshishame has made some great veg and salad cook books. I think you need to stop boiling them as most of the time they turn to mush and become unappetising.

Monroe · 05/05/2014 14:54

Another watching with interest. I've recently started a thread about being stuck in a food rut and a big part of that is only serving the same 3 or 4 veg that I know the dc's will eat and not knowing how to introduce more variety. I'd love them to be eating more like aubergine, courgettes, leeks etc.

I like the idea of the crudités and mine both love hummous so I'll definitely be giving that a try.

LadySybilLikesCake · 05/05/2014 15:16

I get a box from abel and cole. There's a variety of veg so we're not stuck eating carrots every week.

C4ro · 05/05/2014 15:22

My DD is 3.9 and hates all veg, all salad and most fruit. She will just about eat carrots cut up into small cubes in a spag bog or a soup and apple slices with all the skin cut off.
I did manage to get her to eat some veg on pasta- carrots/ onion/ pepper fried up then whizzed with a hand blender until it was smooth. That is all so far. It's getting a bit frustrating but trying not to get het up about it.

Monroe · 05/05/2014 15:37

LadySybil I would happily buy lots of different variety, it's the knowing what to do with it. I was brought up on very plain food so eating and cooking more varied ingredients doesn't come naturally. But I'm trying Grin

justwondering72 · 05/05/2014 16:34

Thanks all for the advice, some things there I havent tried.

It's embarrassing to admit that we live in france too! I feel like I've cheated them out of an opportunity to really enjoy and appreciate veg and salad! In my defense DH and I are both UK, and have a double dose of boring, boiled veg hating and salad avoiding family culture to overcome! I am seriously envious of friends with French partners and in laws in this respect - they might be strict but they know how to get kids eating well right from the start!

Crudités... Not my favorite and neither of mine eat hummus or any other dip.

The veg markets here are great and inspiring, though I can't drag my six year old there for love nor money, too boring. He eats to live, not lives to eat, always has done. The younger one enjoys them though.

I have that HFW book and cook from it often... But only DH and I will eat the results. I don't just serve up boiled to death veg, I enjoy cooking and eating a lot of veg dishes and salads, and DH is a total foodie. But no matter how interesting, well made, exciting and no matter how involved in the prep, they will not eat it.

I usually try to serve up something I know they will eat alongside something I know they won't. Inevitably they eat the familiar and reject the new. Maybe I am bring too lenient, but I don't want dinner time to turn into a fight.

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Cantdothisagain · 05/05/2014 16:40

No real advice but I feel your pain. I love interesting veg and salads. We get a veggie box and offer the kids loads...
.... And yet they just want carrots, peas, tomatoes and broccoli...
It makes me sad. Trying to chill out about it though.

LadySybilLikesCake · 05/05/2014 16:47

Get Huge whatsit's book, Monroe. There's one specifically for veg. Smile

nicename · 05/05/2014 16:54

My sister used to love carrots but only raw and grated.

I put all the salad 'bits' on the table and everyone helps themselves to a bowlful. I usually have the usuals - lettice (a few types), carrots, raddish, tomatoes, cucumber, celery, artichoke hearts, feta, sundried toms, seeds, olives...

Monroe · 05/05/2014 17:33

I'll definitely look out for that book, thanks.

OP it sounds like you are doing all the right things already. I don't think you are too lenient. I don't think it's good to turn meal times into a battle. We have a rule though that you have to try a bit of everything on your plate. Even if they've said they don't like it in the past I keep hoping next time they will Smile

fuzzpig · 05/05/2014 17:47

We do the 'you have to try a bit of everything' rule too. Literally just a bite or tiny cube of something. I make sure there's only one unfamiliar/not-keen-on food in each meal though so it's not overwhelming. I read that it takes about ten tastings of something to become familiar with it so I keep trying and gradually increase the size of the cube etc.

Depends on personality and the root of the issue though, DS just rolls his eyes and does a rather amusing dramatic sigh, but does actually eat it, whereas if it was a food phobia then it wouldn't work.

goodasitgets · 05/05/2014 17:50

Sometimes it takes time - I've only just realised it's not salad I hate, it's lettuce! Started having salad with a base of baby spinach and I adore it

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