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Cream cheese frosting goes runny when I add icing sugar

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BabyLabyrinth · 20/10/2013 10:04

This happens every time I make it. I mix cream cheese and butter until really smooth, and the consistency is perfect. Then I add the sugar, and it goes all runny! I can't pipe it at all. It tastes great but always looks a mess. Where am I going wrong?

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trixymalixy · 20/10/2013 10:08

Cream cheese frosting isn't great for piping, it's not like buttercream. Are you using low fat cream cheese? A higher fat content means a more solid icing. I've also heard of people adding cornflour.

Have you tried adding more icing sugar?

GemmaTeller · 20/10/2013 10:14

Full fat cream cheese seems to work better,

and maybe not quite right but I tend to add an extra scoop of icing sugar to get a thicker consistency.

TheDietStartsTomorrow · 20/10/2013 10:16

You're probably using low fat cream cheese. Use full fat and it'll be firmer.

BabyLabyrinth · 20/10/2013 10:30

It is full-fat cream cheese!

I haven't tried adding more sugar. Will try that later. What about adding more butter? Or will that stop it tasting of cream cheese?

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BabyLabyrinth · 20/10/2013 10:32

I meant to add: I want to use it to fill and top an apple spice cake, but I want it to look neat. OCD

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Bunbaker · 20/10/2013 10:33

It is because the icing sugar dissolves in the cheese, and also you may be using a low fat version. For frosting you must use the full fat version or it will go runny. Or you could try using mascarpone.

You used to be able to buy a high fat cream cheese years ago. It wasn't branded, just called cream cheese. This cream cheese never went runny, but I can't find it these days

K8Middleton · 20/10/2013 10:34

You're adding the sugar at the wrong time. You need to blend the butter and the icing sugar to make a butter cream, then stir through the cream cheese and beat until thick.

I like Hummingbird bakery's recipe for cream cheese frosting - it's foolproof. When making frosting for a carrot cake I add double the amount of cream cheese. Both are thick and never fail.

Purple2012 · 20/10/2013 10:35

I add cornflour to mine, a little at a time until I get the consistency I want. You can't taste the cornflour.

K8Middleton · 20/10/2013 10:38

Hummingbird recipe. I would add 200g cream cheese for your cake topping as I do for carrot cake.

BikeRunSki · 20/10/2013 10:39

Are you using philly ? Not fatty enough. Try looking for cre cheese or curd cheese at deli counter.

SharpLily · 20/10/2013 10:39

I have the same problem, Baby. I've tried all sorts of solutions, including the Hummingbird Bakery recipe, and can't seem to get it right. It just slops all over the place. Husband is fed up of eating a million attempts at carrot cake.

BabyLabyrinth · 20/10/2013 10:43

Oh! Thanks, K8! I always thought you had to beat the butter and cream cheese together first, but I'll try it your way round. I also hadn't thought of adding cornflour, Purple. I'll have that on standby in case K8's method still goes wrong for me.

K8, have you got a link for Hummingbird's recipe? I can't find it on their website.

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BabyLabyrinth · 20/10/2013 10:46

X-posts. Thanks for the link.

No, not using Philly. I use an own-brand one from Aldi (I'm in Germany). I hadn't thought about trying different brands though.

Sharp, it's such a pain, isn't it!

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K8Middleton · 20/10/2013 10:49

I don't know if it makes a difference but I don't have a mixer so I rub in the butter and the sugar instead?

I have used Waitrose own cream cheese and Philadelphia - both full fat. I had several running attempts before I adapted the hummingbird recipe because I didn't use enough sugar or add the cream cheese last.

300g sugar to 50g butter is a lot of sugar but you need it.

Sometimes I do 150g to 25g butter and add a whole pack of cream cheese which is 200g. Never fails.

mrsminiverscharlady · 20/10/2013 10:50

Certainly the Aldi one in this country is proper cream cheese, certainly better for frosting the Philadelphia IME.

K8Middleton · 20/10/2013 10:50

Fingers crossed!

BabyLabyrinth · 20/10/2013 10:52

The Hummingbird recipe warns of overmixing once the cream cheese is added. Maybe that's been the problem -- I do tend to mix my cream cheese and butter for a while.

Can't wait to get home and try these new techniques! Currently at PIL and dreaming of cake ...

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Bunbaker · 20/10/2013 15:30

Some great tips on here. Thank you.

BikeRunSki I haven't seen cream cheese on deli counters for years. Where can I get it? And isn't curd cheese too low fat?

BikeRunSki · 21/10/2013 18:26

I got some cream cheese in Waitrose in Otley earlier this year Bun.

Waferthinmint · 21/10/2013 18:29

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wem · 21/10/2013 18:36

Yes, beating the cream cheese too much will make it go runny. If you've got a mixer you can make the buttercream then whisk in the cream cheese, it makes it lovely and fluffy. You may be able to pipe it, though I've never tried.

Bunbaker · 21/10/2013 19:11

I should have popped in when we went to Otley show. My nearest Waitrose is a 30 mile round trip for me so I never go there. I tried Ocado a couple of times, but they spectacularly cocked up our deliveries twice running so we stuck with Tesco.

valiumredhead · 21/10/2013 19:20

I just mix the cheese and icing sugar together and that's it.

QuidditchTonedThighs · 21/10/2013 20:06

We just use cream cheese and icing sugar, no butter, and it is delicious and never runny.

cupcakes103 · 24/10/2013 14:18

hi, I've always been told that the blocks of Philadelphia is better as it is not whipped like the tubs. I need a really stiff, but not too sweet recipe to pipe roses onto my sisters wedding cake (AAAHHHH!!!) does anyone know if philly still comes in blocks anywhere??

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