GOATS MILK INFO PLEASE

[MammyShirl]

My dd is 7 months and has been breastfed up to now, I a have tried to wena her off several times. When sh ewas 5 months I tried her with formula and twice and she came out in a rash. The doctor said she was allergic so he gave me nutramagen. I think the reason she is still not weaned is because this stuff tastes absolutely vile! I was thinking of tryingher with goats milk instead - any advice or info??? I know soy amilk has been known to trigger allegies so i want to avoid that! MY hv reckons that she might not be allegic to cows milk and to try it again but i am worried that this time she could have a big reaction. i eat alot of diary and my breast milk does not effect her so does this mean that that reaction might of been a one off? does anyone give their chils goats milk? thank you.

please excuse my grammer and spelling - busy mammy!

I haven't given it to my children but we used to keep goats before we had children and we gave our spare milk to three local families all of whom had children with allergy problems (mainly excema). They all liked it!

I know its available at supermarkets too. It definitely has a slightly odd taste but it tastes more like cows milk the fresher it is.

My DS has goats milk - but he was a little older (about 10 months I think) when we switched to it. We went straight to full-fat goats milk, but you can get a goats milk based formula called "Nanny" (the distributors are Vitacare Ltd, Freephone 0800 328 5826 and they'd be able to tell you where you can get it in your area).

You are probably right to be wary about soya - DS's paediatrician said that in his experience more of babies who react to cows milk react to Soya too than react to goats milk.

There's quite a lot on the web about using goats milk for babies if you look, but I've never seen it mentioned in any baby book or website. Except on Mumsnet of course - you'll find quite a few mentions if you search the discussion archives.

My friend's little boy was allergic to cows milk and she weaned him onto soya formula. However at the doctor's suggestion she tried him every now and then on normal formula and he outgrew his cows milk allergy before 12 months. i think she tried some new SMA formula designed for very sensitive babies.

Don't know much about Goat's milk in babies but my MIL uses it as she is lactose intolerant. One thing she has done is buy an ice cream maker and buys goats cream and makes all her own ice cream. I got an ice cream maker a month ago and it's really easy so if your DD is totally lactose intolerant then you can still give her scrummy puddings when she's older so it's not all lost!

If you want to discontinue breastfeeding I would have thought formula was the appropriate alternative, not goat's milk. Goat's milk is still a lot more like cow's milk than human milk or formula. Goat's milk would be ok after 12 months, but not at 7 months. Maybe you just need to try different formulas?

Ds wouldn't take formula of any sort, which got quite worrying as my back to work date approached - we tried every one we could get hold of, until someone recommended Nannygate - I bought it online at goodnessdirect.com. It was miraculous, having turned his nose up at 8+ different types of formula milk, he loved this one (he was about 8-9m I think), and we put him on goats milk at about 14 month. Can't remember when we changed over to cows milk, but the transition was fine.

Hello, I was not clear enough... I was supposed to say Goats formula milk called Nanny. Wondered if anyone used this milk instead of normal forumla.

Why do you have to get up to express MammyShirl? If you enjoy feeding you should be able to do that without having to get up for expressing at this age. Sorry I don't know anything about Nanny's goat's milk. What happenend with the nutramagen? Did she react to it?

I copied that post from your other thread.

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MammyShirl, first, all of this is just my opinion....
I agree with your HV and don't think it will hurt to try cows milk formula again- especially as you are eating a lot of dairy. Give her a bottle, wait a day and see what happens. If she gets a rash again, try something new.

You can try the goats' milk formula and you might also try a partially hydrolysed formula -- I think Nestle Nan HA is available in the UK. Do it the same way: give a bottle and wait and see what happens. There is a bit of controversy about soya, but as your child is 7 months and presumably on solids, I think that it's fine. For teeny tiny babies whose sole food comes from formula, it's probably not the best bet (just my opinion!).

Good luck! Hope it goes well.

Robinw, (disclaimer: I learned this 2 years after having avoided lactose....) lactose is a sugar present in all animals' milks, so if a person is breastfeeding a child, that child is getting lactose. Lactose intolerant children need special management while breastfeeding (usually it's a bug which goes away, so they can breastfeed normally after that). True lactose intolerance is very rare and obvious in the days after the birth (sometimes breastfeeding is impossible -- but it's very rare and quite obvious when it happens). Actually, getting the bug is rare, too. It's something that happens in the weeks after birth usually.

That having been said, I had problems (green watery stools, gassy) with my second son due to too much foremilk -- it was something like he was getting too much lactose and not enough fat and stuff he needed to digest it? That might be wrong, but whatever the case, changing my breastfeeding technique solved the problem.

Sorry once again for the off-topicedness. And some of that might be a bit wrong. Interesting, though, huh? (No, that's a rhetorical question. Please don't answer. )

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