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VICTORIA SPONGE help urgently needed!!!

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winnybella · 01/02/2011 13:27

Right, so it's DS's birthday today and I decided to make Victoria sponge with fresh strawberries and whipped cream.

Now I have a few questions, please:

  1. I haven't got 2 tins, I have one that's about 3 inches deep. Can I just make one sponge in it and then slice it? How do I need to adjust baking time for it?
  1. Fold the flour in (and what does it mean?) or just whisk all ingredients together?
  1. I thought I'll just do strawberries and cream, but almost all recipes use strawberry jam together with strawerries and cream. Thoughts?
  1. How much vanilla sugar should I add to 50cl of cream? Or should I mix icing sugar with vanilla sugar?

TIA, I need to start baking in an hour.

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taffetasplat · 01/02/2011 16:07

I love that this thread is in most active convos Grin

op - if it collapses, your ingreds would make a fab trifle.....great with some candles on top

winnybella · 01/02/2011 16:09

nickel- thanks for enlightening me Smile Even on BBC Food, though, they have some recipes as 'sponge' and some as 'sandwich'. Yes, I used equal amounts of everything (although eggs were v.large so have overdosed on those-hence eggy smell)

Ok, the foil seems to be helping- looks better now although the middle is still bubbly and not as dry/crusty looking as the edges. It's been an hour now! Surely it must be cooked!

Thank you all. Will update

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winnybella · 01/02/2011 16:10

Ok, it's out, burnt a bit but springy everywhere.

How long do I keep it in a tin before transfering to the cooling rack?

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taffetasplat · 01/02/2011 16:11

160 seems low to me. I normally do cakes at 180.

Bubbly doesn't mean its not done. Have you stuck a skewer in the centre? Or chopstick/whatever? If it comes out clean, its done.

taffetasplat · 01/02/2011 16:12

Keep in tin for 5 mins until sides start to shrink away from the side a bit

Then transfer to cooling rack

nickelthenaughtybutnicefairy · 01/02/2011 16:12

i know, they're naughty Grin

transfer it straight away - I put the rack on top, a teatowel over the back of the tin, hold the edges and tip.

taffetasplat · 01/02/2011 16:13

It sounds great, once its cool, just cut off the burnt bit. Dust liberally with icing sugar etc nooone will notice

SlubberIsNotGettingEHU · 01/02/2011 16:15

Taffeta, winny is doing it at a lower temp than normal as she only has one tin with double amount in, so slow and long so she doesn't get a burnt pointy top.

nickelthenaughtybutnicefairy · 01/02/2011 16:20

for future reference - nickelbabe's foolproof Victoria Sandwich plan:

grease 2 x 8" cake tins.
get 3 medium or large eggs.
weigh the eggs. (should be about 6 oz)
use that weight to measure the same amount of
Self-raising flour
CASTER sugar
spreadable butter (it does make a difference)

heat the oven to 180 degrees/ gas mark 4/5 (and make sure your shelves are in the middle of the oven)

put the butter and sugar in a bowl and cream it - that means hitting it randomly ins circular motions with a wooden spoon against the side of the bowl until it's all mixed in and the butter's goen a bit softer. (a Kenwood Chef is a good investment)
then throw the eggs in.
beat it (hit it with a spoon in circular motions until it's rather runny, but it will still be lumpy)
add the flour 1/4 at a time. beat that as before.

It'll be runny, but quite stiff, and a ligth yellow colour. (it'll probably still be lumpy if you've done it by hand)

spoon half the mixture into one tin, and half into the other tin.
put one tin on the top shelf at the back/open side and on the bottom shelf at the front/hinge (or side by side if they'll fit)
cook for exactly 25 minutes.

take the tins out ofthe oven and do whatever you do to make it come away from the tin (mine's got a thing you pull round, but some you have to use a knife)
put the cooling rack over the tin, usea teatowel to hold it on and tip it over.
repeat with the other tin (and hopefully another cooling rack)

after about half an hour, spread strawberry jam/cream on the top of one, put the other onto the top of it (same way as before, but you can hold it with your hand)
do it quickly so that it doesn't break at all.
sprinkle caster sugar on the top.

cut and serve!

honestly - i cannot cook at all, but I can do Victoria Sandwich - it's the only thing I can do successfully.
Grin

winnybella · 01/02/2011 16:22

Thanks all. Will transfer to the cooling rack pronto.

Have whipped the cream- I think I might have overdone it a bit- a bit buttery/heavy as opposed to very fluffy. Hmm.

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nickelthenaughtybutnicefairy · 01/02/2011 16:23

we will need to see pictures too - i'm sure it tastes much better than it looks (cake always does!)
:)

bouncingblueberries · 01/02/2011 16:24

Victoria sponge doesn't have fat in it - really?? I never knew

so how do you make victoria sponge then?

bellavita · 01/02/2011 16:25

For future reference

8oz of everything
4 large eggs
2 tsp of baking powder

Chuck everything in the bowl, whisk, turn into two lined tins, bung in the oven at 160 fan or 180 normal for 25 mins.

Cool, fill with jam/cream/strawbs

This is a Mary Berry recipe - works every time >

nickelthenaughtybutnicefairy · 01/02/2011 16:26

no! there's no such thing as Victoria Sponge! Shock
it's Victoria Sandwich (a cake with ingredients in equal parts) or a sponge (where it's mainly flour, eggs and sugar - the fluffiness comes from the way you whip it up)

if it's called Victoria then it's not a sponge and if it's called aSponge then it's not Victoria.

nickelthenaughtybutnicefairy · 01/02/2011 16:26

bellavita - mine's step-by-step.

SlubberIsNotGettingEHU · 01/02/2011 16:26
bouncingblueberries · 01/02/2011 16:29

fwiw, my foolproof victoria sandwich/sponge recipe is:

4 eggs, weighed
same weight of golden caster sugar, self-raising flour and stork (yes, stork!)

Cream stork and sugar until fluffy, bung in eggs, sift in flour, give it a quick whisk then finish off by hand.

Divide mixture between 2 21cm tins and bake in 180 degree oven for about 20-24 mins.

When cooked and cooled sandwich together with strawberry jam or fresh berries and cream if for a special occasion.

Grin
SlubberIsNotGettingEHU · 01/02/2011 16:29

Fuck it

HERE is the only recipe you need

Good housekeeping triple tested, pah! I spit on triple tested. This is like the fucking BORG making a VSC.

nickelthenaughtybutnicefairy · 01/02/2011 16:30

doily Confused

doily ??????????????

winnybella · 01/02/2011 16:30

Grin @ you lot squabbling about best recipe...

Ok, it's on the rack now and the bottom looks perfect so will serve upside down.

Slicing it will be a bit problematic. Hmm.

How do you like the cream- a bit buttery or very airy like from a spray thingy you buy in a shop? I still have enough so could re do it.

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nickelthenaughtybutnicefairy · 01/02/2011 16:31

mine's still better.

bouncingblueberries · 01/02/2011 16:31
nickelthenaughtybutnicefairy · 01/02/2011 16:31

buttery, definitely.

nickelthenaughtybutnicefairy · 01/02/2011 16:31

actually, however your cream has turned out is perfect. Grin

taffetasplat · 01/02/2011 16:32

Thanks Slubber that'll teach me for not reading the whole thread properly

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