How far do you take organic???

[bootsmonkey]

Just curious really. I have spent a few days with my brothers family and am amazed at the extent my SIL takes the organic line. I can understand meat and vegetables, no problem. (although to me knowing the origin and sourcing locally/in season are just as important as the organic stamp) But oil, vinegar (surely that's just something that has gone off??)wheatabix, ketchup, baby bath, deoderant??? How far do you take it and how much extra would you consider it acceptable to pay?? I am not proud and buy the store's own brand whenever possible (needs must and all that) but try to buy meat from the local butcher - not organic, but local 'happy' meat. Trying to work out if I am just jealous or she is barking and has more money than sense!!

Over to you...

how does mucus get into the milk????

Anyhow as the song goes "Wooooooouldn't it be luverly" if we could all afford to go organic/free range/fair trade

I disagree about the carrots. Organic are far tastier.

i bought some tesco organic mayo and it was so so sour. i went and got a refund for it. i will have a look at the co-op mayo.

We're very, very skint. But good food is important. So we buy from our farmer's market. It can be done, even if you're very low income. We just cut other things - like digital cable, mobiles, clothes, etc. - out of our lives entirely.

the dairy farm here is owned by a friend of mine and i sometimes have a drink of nonpateurised milk - its deeeeelicious

yes its organic too

my kids have organic knickers.

well lucky you that you've got an affordable farmers market - ours is here once a month and is VERY expensive, even cutting out satellite (the broadband is free ATM because of an NThell cockup) we stiill woulnd't be able to afford it. We don't have mobile phones (well only pay as you go with no credit on them which we recieve calls only one), can't remember when I last bought clothes for any of us....... (well apart from DS1's school unifrom which we HAVE to buy this week(.

So are we agreed then - finances permitting. All milk (and presumable therefore dairy produce - cheese, yogs, from frais) to be organic. Sugar & carrots too. Fairtrade bananas & coffee (& chocolate?). Cotton - do you have to seek this out?? I buy my knickers from ASDA and I am sure they do not have an organic range! Otherwise low air miles seasonal produce acceptable? How much woud you expect this to add to your shop and how much extra would you/do you find acceptable??

I like your sense of priorities, expat!
my ds has only ever had organic milk, but we don't buy organic meat at all hardly - quite difficult to get hold of in the industrial farmers' heaven that is Brittany

lamb is meant to be the next best thing - or wild fish, I suppose, but there are ecological issues involved there too.

I agree that buying local can be more important than buying organic sometimes

DEFINITELY goig to buy organic milk against non organic methinks. I buy my fruit and veg (and you can get a whole lot more than that) through my local organic box scheme. Its brilliant and having checked (yes, sad i know) against the on-line ordering system of our local large supermarket chain - the fruit and veg worked out to be roughly equal in cost to that of the supermarket non-organic equals. The Supermarkets own organic range was very expensive by comparison so i can see why it puts people off. Go through a local box scheme and they often deliver to your door like mine does!

this is a good website for sourcing local producers: \link{http://www.bigbarn.co.uk/bigbarn}

Just been looking it appears cows milk increases mucus production in HUMANS (regarldess of organic or non organic) but I can't find any reference to it having any mucus in it????

bummer...www.bigbarn.co.uk

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QofQ - I've jst beeen googling too and can't find a ref to mucus IN milk

lol Iota - we were probably cliickig the same sites

How about a box scheme, QofQ? That might be a way to afford it. I don't do it myself, but the stall I buy veg and fruit and eggs from offers a nice one for £10. With enough veg for a fortnight.

Just a thought!

for you meggymoo why organic

A few price comparisons (based on shopping at Tesco.com - as that's where we shop as we've got lots of clubcard vouchers )

4 pints of Milk - Organic £1.25 - Normal - £1.11
Bread (own brand) - Organic - 58p - Normal - 43p
Eggs 6 - Organic £1.14 - Normal 68p
Cherry Tomatoes 250g - Organic 98p - normal 68p (long term offer of 2 for £1 though)
Celery - Organic 99p - Normal 52p
Baked Beans - Organic 59p - Normal 24p
Beef Mince 400g - Organic £2.79 - Normal £1.21
So from that lot above

organic would cost you £8.32
Normal (not value) would be £4.90

But substitute "with pesticides, other chemicals and hormones" for Normal and you'll see why it's worth it for some people

haha - box scheme - there's none round this way - at least none that we can afford,

And to be honest - I plan everymeal - I wouldn't be able to do that if I didn't know what was coming. Plus I struggle to get all the fruit, veg and salad stuff in the fridge/vegetable rack for one week - never mind two

Plus there's no guarantee we'd actually have the money fortnightly to pay for it

I tried some organic fruit and it didnt last and went bad very quickly.

yes worth it if you've got the money. You could say we should 'sacrifice' on stuff to be able to afford 'proper' food - but there's nothing left to sacrifice on!

I know - I wasn't suggesting selling DS2 to afford it, don't worry

I am currently awaiting the scantily clad antipodeans who drop off our weekly organic box